A rod of length \(l\) is sliding such that one of it's ends is always in contact with a vertical wall and it's other end is always in contact with horizontal surface ( rod is lying in vertical plane ). Just after the rod is released from rest, the magnitude of acceleration of end points of the rod is \(a\) and \(b\) respectively.

What will be the angular acceleration of the rod at this instant?

**My attempt**: If we assume that the rod makes an angle \(\theta\) with \(x\) axis, then \(x=l\cos\theta\) and \(y=l\sin\theta\) which means \(\dot{x}=-l\sin\theta\dot{\theta}\) and \(\dot{y}=l\cos\theta\dot{\theta}\) (Here \(\dot{\theta}<0\))

This means \(\ddot{x}=a=-l\cos\theta\dot{\theta}^2-l\sin\theta\ddot{\theta}\) and \(\ddot{y}=b=-l\sin\theta\dot{\theta}^2+l\cos\theta\ddot{\theta}\) and squaring and adding gives me \(\dfrac{a^2+b^2}{l^2}=\dot{\theta}^4+\ddot{\theta}^2\).

But , The correct answer is \[\dfrac{a^2+b^2}{l^2}=\ddot{\theta}^2\]

So does that mean, just after releasing, \(\dot{\theta}=0?\)

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TopNewestHave a look at this problem. We are assuming (I presume) that the contact forces with the wall and floor are smooth.

If normal reaction forces have to be positive, the rod does not stay in contact with the wall forever, but the differential equation I give for \(\theta\) can be differentiated to give the initial angular acceleration, and therefore also the initial accelerations of the endpoints. If the rod is to stay in contact with the wall throughout the motion, the reaction with the wall will have be be allowed to be negative (so the rod is sliding down a smooth groove in the wall, of the like).

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but I am asking what I have done wrong? My case deals only with an immediate instant after the release of the rod and not with throughout motion of the rod... rod doesn't know that it will be leaving the contact with the wall later in the motion.... I have also written some extra calculation how I did it...

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You haven't done anything wrong, except forget the phrased "released from rest". The rod starts at rest, and so its initial angular speed is \(0\). Thus \[ \dot{\theta}^4 + \ddot{\theta}^2 \; = \; \ddot{\theta}^2 \]

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@Vilakshan Gupta Come on slack............

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Can you tell me how to join slack. I am trying for it for many days.

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Yes surely............see.......earlier, there was a Brilliant Lounge on slack.......but it has been deactivated due to lack of activity on it.........Now, what me and Vilakshan Gupta are doing is that, we have joined an online community for RMO/INMO preparation, and then we use personal chats to talk..........that can work........Should I send you an invite???

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@Steven Chase @Mark Hennings Sir where I am wrong?

And also tell how can we solve it by Instantaneous Centre of Rotation method.

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I don't typically use that method. But from what I've read, it sounds like the instantaneous center method is useful for relating the two endpoint accelerations, a and b, in a simple way.

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