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There are So many cases are arising on #RMO2018 paper evaluation, some solved 3 questions but got 8 marks, some solved 4 but got 20 marks etc

HBCSE & Regional Coordinators should open up their mind & policies for revaluation with an Ombudsman in presence of the student, if the student is asking for such an arrangement.

There are a lot of hidden talents in rural India and suburbans they have alternative answers but neither evaluated nor understood properly. They are talents but victims.

There are evaluating teachers who neither have a teaching experience nor experience in solving Olympiad problems. Its observed that Regional Coordinators office some times colluded by individuals or influential institutions.

Please share your Your views, why there shouldn’t be transparency in RMO revaluation process?

I agree. The revaluation seems to have become a business trying to collect Rs.500 from the students without any guaranteed clarifications from Regional coordinators. Students deserve a better system which is more transparent. Atleast share scanned answer copies of students who pay for revaluation.

Very true sir
Sir i have found there are collusion’s in between influential institutions & RMO Coordinators offices. A particular set of people are entrusted in the core job of evaluation in RMO Coordinators offices & the Coordinators are chosen as olderly inactive Rubber stamps.

Thats why 1.3 billion population country has no place in top 25 where as the IMO toppers are of Indian Origin.

You are absolutely right.Not only this but there's another fault.They select differently form the States.So it happens that student of a state who scores many more than a student of another state.But the first one doesn't get the the chance to sit in INMO.But he/she is better!And this affects the ultimate result of India in IMO...I am writing this because I am the victim.I scored 53 ,class 12,but I'm not selected but in KV the score of class 12 is 49(I have checked it) and he is selected.It can be said that WB is a good state.and there's the fact .If WB is better so why not students of WB are given priority?If the students of good states are choose then it will be better .So at last,my opinion is that in RMO the students should be chosen from whole India not on the state basis.(Like first 180 from whole India,class 12). Am I not right?

Are all provisional scores out? Because in mine it shows 0 while I have done four correct questions with two almost fully shown working. I don't get it . I'm from Uttarakhand by the way... Also the year is given 2017. I really don't know what is happening.

Actually your chance is almost improbable.
This year many are getting above 50.
The lowest cutoff in the last two years was around 36. That was in 2016.

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Hey I got 2 questions exactly correct having the same answer as of the official solutions but I got 0 in that.Will rechecking affect my marks provided my method is different than theirs but is correct.

I have answered one question exactly correct with the same explanation as given in solutions while another question with a longer (yet correct) method than the solution. But my score shows 21. I'm from jharkhand region

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Are we suppose to send email to them? I sent money and application by post. Included my email id in the application.
Will everyone get mail?

Are you in the INMO 19 GROUP made by rmo Gujarat coordinator? Just WhatsApp him that you are selected and he will add you after confirmation. His number is 919426383343

RMO cutoff is same for classes 8,9,10 and 11
The cutoff varies according to the state.
So if you are curious about the RMO cutoff you have to specify the state. And for your convenience the cutoff last year was 55 in West Bengal.
I am currently not sure about the cutoff of other states so I would dare not to increase any speculation by randomly guessing false cutoffs.

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Then this year the cut off should be around 26-27.. By the way just checking RMO scores of KV students. Out of over 2400 RMO examinees, only 111 (including class 12) scored 30+. That tells something about difficulty level and relative performance of the candidates.

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Yes, official solution is different. But you may still get marks if you have logically approached the solution. By the way how many correct answers u got as per official solution.

In q4 the combinatorics problem I wrote the following solution.
There are at least 13 points of same colour.
Now by pigeonhole theorem 2 there is at least 4 equidistant point with 3 same colour,(13=4×3+1).I have explained the above statement.
How much marks will I get for this.

@Devdutt Kar
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The picture that i have drawn is only the picture of 25 points.And nothing else.and then explained the above mentioned statement. How much marks for this.

I just got to see my rmo provisional score and I got 8 M. I am expecting much higher, so I need your guidance. Please help. I am posting a brief summary of my answer I wrote in my answer sheet. I you have time please read and suggest me something.

I did Q.2, correctly, applied AM-GM as gave clear explanation of everything. I expected 17 M for this. In Q.4, pigeon hole one, I assumed that there are at least 3 colours in 1st row and showed all the cases. I did more than 80% correct, but at last I messed a bit. I wrote a bit lengthy answer stating each possibilities, but still I expected 13+. Then, comes Q.1, as per Allen paper, it solved it using Tangent secant theorem and sine rule. I did it using Tangent secant theorem and one construction. I doubt if the construction part is wrong, but then too I expected 5M for it. I then did Q.5, I think it would be a false attempt as I used hit and trial and predicted the following number. These were right but I don't expect any marks on it. Then comes last question, I could have solved it but due to shortage of time I first wrote my objective in short on how I will prove it(will make angle in same segment equal) and start doing it. But could even complete 25% of it. Still I am expecting 35+ marks. What should I do. I need your opinion please.

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As the candidates are eligible to apply for reevaluation, hbcse must publicise the criteria for evaluation of RMO papers. It would also be better if scanned evaluated sheets are also made available while displaying scores, so that students know where exactly they have to draw the attention of examiners for reevaluation. Else, it becomes a blind request for revaluation, without being able to e
pinpoint where exactly the examiners have gone wrong in evaluating the papers.

@Suchir Kaustav
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Yes that's right. There would be some transparency in revaluation. Atleast for people who pay for revaluation, they should show scanned sheets. We can collectively request them on their fb page

@Suchir Kaustav
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If entire answersheet can not be displayed, they should at least display the problem wise score for each candidate, so that that examiners know which problem exactly, they want to be revaluated.

@Devdutt Kar
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Why is the scoring in Bengal higher than other regions? Is it because people in WB are sharper in maths compared to other regions or the marking in WB is more liberal??

@Suchir Kaustav
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People might be more sharper but only a few.Examiners have proper knowledge regarding their subjects their unlike the worst scenario observed here.

I'm sorry to say... but Nikhil you have no chances of qualifying! 😔
Do you speak Telugu?... I'm asking cause I'm from Andhra, but I'm studying in Mysore...

Is it worth getting revaluation done when the score shown is 0? I could solve 2 completely and attempted 2 more, so I feel I should have scored more. Has revaluation helped anyone in such a case?
I am from UP state.

@Ambica Jain
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No I haven't sent for re evaluation but I have done 3.5-4 questions correct , I am thinking of re evaluation . I have heard cases where people getting 29 marks got 63 in actual,there may be any technical issue regarding publishment of results sot is better to apply for reevaluation.

@Suchir Kaustav
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How much he will reduce from 0.ha ah but it will not reduce your score until it's exception that he find a major error in your method.

@Aman Pandey
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He's my personal relative and he told me that he has reduced by around 60 marks for skipping 3 major reasons and the marking scheme was according to that.

@Aman Pandey
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Okay.I am also appearing for NSEA.Suggest me some tips for that,Well I too love both of them that's why I had my classic mechanics level 5 and electricity and magnetism level 4 in brilliant.

@Suchir Kaustav
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Ok first start doing concept of physics by hc Verma.Its a conceptual book and you can study it by own.Do attempt NSEA too if you are appearing for NSEP.After this when you will come to class 11th you should be able to finish your 11th.Till November just focus on major topics of class 12th but this time do practice from the books which are suitable for physics olympiads like I.E. Irodov,SS Krotov.
Warning:Before attempting physics olympiad books ensure that you arare done with nicest of class 11th and 12th and hc Verma.IE irodov and SS krotov are only for INPHO and OCSC.You can skip Modern physics if you want.Also Some mechanical properties of matter is also worth of skipping.Do cover major topics like-Whole Electrostatics with hc Verma and full geometrical optics except young double silt experiment.In All you just follow your coaching modules to get through NSEP in 11th.

@Devdutt Kar
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Hey bro because hc Verma theory sucks and irodov has no theory 😂😂 just hard problems. The best book for nsep is resnick halliday. And yo for astronomy you can check out YouTube videos on crash course astronomy. Ita just amazing.

@Suchir Kaustav
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If you tell it then i can suggest you some.I know you will consider me a 10th grader but i dont seem to be.My briliant levels also show that.So i think i am qualified to answer your question.

I have heard that if revaluation request is on frivolous grounds (in your request letter you have to clearly specify, question wise , why you think your score is much below what you deserve) , they may get irritated, scrutinize your paper more closely, and if required even downgrade your score. So you have to be very sure. It should not be a routine request just to test your luck.

@Devdutt Kar
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I will try calling him tomorrow. Don't know if he will take my call. He could have taken since you know him. But will try.
I wish he give close attention and consider I have solved those despite in class 8.

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It's season of RMO-2018

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What about cutoff of south Bihar region

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Around 25-30.

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10th,Karnataka, studying inkendriya vidyalaya, I got 24 marks inRMO (2018)held on 7th October..Do I have a chance to qualify for INMO?

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I got 34 marks and I am from South Bihar region will I qualify

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I got 41 from Karnataka region, 11th grade.. can I qualify?

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Ya.

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Ya da. U will😂

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Will 33 in Karnataka work?

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Anyone from odisha here?

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Yes

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How did you get your re evaluated score??

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What's your score brother??

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My Marks in rmo 2018 is 27 and I am from North bihar region

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My mark is 23 from Kerala region.what is the cut off

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What is merit awardees in the result

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I got qualified from odisha class 89

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How much did you scored

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My score is 42 will I be get selected?

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Check the results

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There are So many cases are arising on #RMO2018 paper evaluation, some solved 3 questions but got 8 marks, some solved 4 but got 20 marks etc

HBCSE & Regional Coordinators should open up their mind & policies for revaluation with an Ombudsman in presence of the student, if the student is asking for such an arrangement.

There are a lot of hidden talents in rural India and suburbans they have alternative answers but neither evaluated nor understood properly. They are talents but victims.

There are evaluating teachers who neither have a teaching experience nor experience in solving Olympiad problems. Its observed that Regional Coordinators office some times colluded by individuals or influential institutions.

Please share your Your views, why there shouldn’t be transparency in RMO revaluation process?

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I agree. The revaluation seems to have become a business trying to collect Rs.500 from the students without any guaranteed clarifications from Regional coordinators. Students deserve a better system which is more transparent. Atleast share scanned answer copies of students who pay for revaluation.

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Very true sir Sir i have found there are collusion’s in between influential institutions & RMO Coordinators offices. A particular set of people are entrusted in the core job of evaluation in RMO Coordinators offices & the Coordinators are chosen as olderly inactive Rubber stamps.

Thats why 1.3 billion population country has no place in top 25 where as the IMO toppers are of Indian Origin.

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You are absolutely right.Not only this but there's another fault.They select differently form the States.So it happens that student of a state who scores many more than a student of another state.But the first one doesn't get the the chance to sit in INMO.But he/she is better!And this affects the ultimate result of India in IMO...I am writing this because I am the victim.I scored 53 ,class 12,but I'm not selected but in KV the score of class 12 is 49(I have checked it) and he is selected.It can be said that WB is a good state.and there's the fact .If WB is better so why not students of WB are given priority?If the students of good states are choose then it will be better .So at last,my opinion is that in RMO the students should be chosen from whole India not on the state basis.(Like first 180 from whole India,class 12). Am I not right?

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I secured 25 marks in rmo

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How much could be the cut off for Uttarakhand for the RMO 2018? I'm probably getting a 25/30 so do I stand a chance?

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the chances are 50-50 dude for a state like uttrakhand i expect the cutoff will be 30-38

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Cool, thanks!

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No bro it's less than 25 or even less than 20 there.This time PRMO-2018 cut off was just 3 points in uttarakhand.Imagine the competition.

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What will be the cut off for Mumbai region??? I have got 38 marks , I am from class 9 and mumbai region.Will i qualify?

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Sorry bro I think you will not be selected .In fact I am sure regarding this.

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When will UP scores be available??

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Are you serious ? :( 38??

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Bro in Mumbai region competition is high .

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You may..cutoff may be~35 for mumbai

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No yar.

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You are from West Bengal na.

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I got 29 in rmo in jharakhand for class 10

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Are all provisional scores out? Because in mine it shows 0 while I have done four correct questions with two almost fully shown working. I don't get it . I'm from Uttarakhand by the way... Also the year is given 2017. I really don't know what is happening.

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I am facing the same problem

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same here somebody help please

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Results out bud how much are you getting? I am getting 39 and i made it but i am in class XII

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Same here

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You have done revaluation

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Is getting selected certain with a score of 46 in mumbai (class 8-11), or should I send for reval?

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yes cutoff may be 34 for Mumbai

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I am in class 10, West Bengal. I got 35 in RMO 2018. Do I have a chance to qualify for INMO 2018?

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Actually your chance is almost improbable. This year many are getting above 50. The lowest cutoff in the last two years was around 36. That was in 2016.

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44 marks is Madhya Pradesh Class 9 th What are the chances of selection ???

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Easily bro(or sis most probably)congrats

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Class 9?😱 really brilliant

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Have you?

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I have answered one question exactly correct with the same explanation as given in solutions while another question with a longer (yet correct) method than the solution. But my score shows 21. I'm from jharkhand region

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Will you give for re-evaluation?

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From which city u r?

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I am from UP n getting 34 in rmo . Is there any chance for qualification ?

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Which class ?

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10

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What was 2017 cutoff in rmo in north Bihar region?

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I am a class 9th student from Odisha. I got 33 marks and I am a KV student as well. May I get selected??

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When and how will I get my re evaluated marks.

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Somebody please help

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If you have applied then you will get a mAil about it.

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I m from KV of class XII ..and I got 55 marks..Do I have any chance?

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Yes.Easily

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Results are out now!

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I didn't get selected. Let me know if anyone else from Tamil Nadu got selected.

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I got qualified from Gujarat. Is there anyone else from Gujarat here?

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Congratulations

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I also got qualified from Gujarat how, much marks did you scored

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20

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Are you in the INMO 19 GROUP made by rmo Gujarat coordinator? Just WhatsApp him that you are selected and he will add you after confirmation. His number is 919426383343

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A student of STD 11 with score 23 from Kerala.Is he near to the cutoff

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Can anyone let me know whether I am close to cutoff. I got 33 in TN.

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What is the highest score in rmo 2018

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From TN 77

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In Uttarakhand class 12 highest score is 12 marks only

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Minimum score of qualifying might be 4 or 5 as 6 students are selected

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So less ? In Gujarat even least score of class 8-11 is more than that

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What was the last year's rmo cut off for class 10

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RMO cutoff is same for classes 8,9,10 and 11 The cutoff varies according to the state. So if you are curious about the RMO cutoff you have to specify the state. And for your convenience the cutoff last year was 55 in West Bengal. I am currently not sure about the cutoff of other states so I would dare not to increase any speculation by randomly guessing false cutoffs.

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I am from Uttar Pradesh

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Check my profile for discussion of RMO-2018.

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.what about cutt of haryana this year ,, for classes8 to 11??

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I am getting 25 marks and I am from south Bihar region.Will I qualify in rmo2018

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Maybe.But if you get less than that it's almost impossible.Situations are not on your side but only on luck.

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I think if u r from South bihar then you can.

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I am Getting 40 from chhatisgarh class 12... is there any hope

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There maybe some hope.

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YEAH THERE IS..you may probably get selected

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I got 33 in RMO and I am a KVian from Bangalore region and studying in class 11th. Is there any hope for me to be selected for INMO...???

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Yes I think 33 will work.

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Thanks for the motivation

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Don't worry just start preparing for INMO friend.

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Okay thanks

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In q4 the combinatorics problem I wrote the following solution. There are at least 13 points of same colour. Now by pigeonhole theorem 2 there is at least 4 equidistant point with 3 same colour,(13=4×3+1).I have explained the above statement. How much marks will I get for this.

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Somebody please reply

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If you have explained all the cases and messed up something then expect around 14-15 marks otherwise 10-12 marks.

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I am from north Bihar region and getting 33 . Will I be selected

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I m getting 33 in Karnataka... Is there any hope?

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I got 34 marks and I am from South Bihar region will I qualify

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I just got to see my rmo provisional score and I got 8 M. I am expecting much higher, so I need your guidance. Please help. I am posting a brief summary of my answer I wrote in my answer sheet. I you have time please read and suggest me something.

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I did Q.2, correctly, applied AM-GM as gave clear explanation of everything. I expected 17 M for this. In Q.4, pigeon hole one, I assumed that there are at least 3 colours in 1st row and showed all the cases. I did more than 80% correct, but at last I messed a bit. I wrote a bit lengthy answer stating each possibilities, but still I expected 13+. Then, comes Q.1, as per Allen paper, it solved it using Tangent secant theorem and sine rule. I did it using Tangent secant theorem and one construction. I doubt if the construction part is wrong, but then too I expected 5M for it. I then did Q.5, I think it would be a false attempt as I used hit and trial and predicted the following number. These were right but I don't expect any marks on it. Then comes last question, I could have solved it but due to shortage of time I first wrote my objective in short on how I will prove it(will make angle in same segment equal) and start doing it. But could even complete 25% of it. Still I am expecting 35+ marks. What should I do. I need your opinion please.

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What is your state

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How much you got?

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Oh please send for re evaluation then.

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@Devdutt Kar, did your score increase after the revaluation? I'm eager to know your real score!! 😙

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Please tell your marks after re-evaluation

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Did you get your re evaluated score??

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I am in class 12 and my score is 53 out of 102.Will I be selected for INMO? My region is West Bengal.

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Your region?

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My region is west bengal.

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I got 36 from Delhi region RMO 2018. Will I be selected for INMO ?

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Probably not.But chances are still there.

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Chances are fair

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I'm in class 10th, Karnataka, studying in kendriya vidyalaya Mysore, I got 24 marks in RMO (2018) held on 7th October..

Do I have a chance to qualify for INMO?

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I am from telangana region and got 34 marks will I qualify??

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29

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I'm sorry to say... but Nikhil you have no chances of qualifying! 😔 Do you speak Telugu?... I'm asking cause I'm from Andhra, but I'm studying in Mysore...

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What would be cut off of up this year last year it was 28

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Up is a mystery better not talk till our marks come.

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Have you contacted him?

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Got 19 in class 10th to in MP kv

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No chances

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Can re-evaluation decrease my marks if not confident?

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Sure but that's rare

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I think you should apply for reevaluation

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29 in jharakhand

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Ya you will qualify easily.. btw u r from which school ?

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I have got 36 in North Bihar.should I hope to qualify?

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Yes

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I have got 34. Will it work?

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Not 100% but chances are.

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My friend did 3 questions correct,but his score is only 12 out of 102.Why is it?

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Is it worth getting revaluation done when the score shown is 0? I could solve 2 completely and attempted 2 more, so I feel I should have scored more. Has revaluation helped anyone in such a case? I am from UP state.

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I too got 0 I was expecting 3.5-4 question.

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I am very tensed please suggest me a way out of this.

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Have you done re evaluation?What are you doing now and what the regional coordinator told you?

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I doubt anything will happen with revaluation. Not sure what to do.

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I feel it is okay to get reevaluated. But from my experience, I have never got any extra marks during reevaluation.

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I have heard that if revaluation request is on frivolous grounds (in your request letter you have to clearly specify, question wise , why you think your score is much below what you deserve) , they may get irritated, scrutinize your paper more closely, and if required even downgrade your score. So you have to be very sure. It should not be a routine request just to test your luck.

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