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\(30th\quad Indian\quad National\quad Mathematical\quad Olympiad-2015\\ \\ 1.\quad Let\quad ABC\quad be\quad a\quad right\quad angled\quad triangle\quad with\quad \angle B={ 90 }^{ 0 }.\\ Let\quad BD\quad be\quad the\quad altitude\quad from\quad B\quad on\quad to\quad AC.\quad Let\quad P,\quad Q\\ and\quad I\quad be\quad incenters\quad of\quad triangles\quad ABD,\quad CBD\quad and\quad ABC\\ respectively.\quad Show\quad that\quad the\quad circumcenter\quad of\quad triangle\quad \\ PIQ\quad lies\quad on\quad hypotenuse\quad AC.\\ \\ 2.\quad For\quad any\quad natural\quad number\quad n>1,\quad write\quad the\quad infinite\quad \\ decimal\quad expansion\quad of\quad 1/n\quad (for\quad example,\quad we\quad write\\ 1/2\quad =\quad 0.4\overset { \_ }{ 9 } \quad as\quad its\quad infinite\quad decimal\quad expansion,\quad not\quad \\ 0.5).\quad Determine\quad the\quad length\quad of\quad non-periodic\quad part\quad of\\ \quad the\quad infinite\quad decimal\quad expansion\quad of\quad 1/n.\\ \\ 3.\quad Find\quad all\quad real\quad functions\quad f\quad from\quad R\rightarrow R\quad satisfying\\ the\quad relation\\ \qquad \qquad \qquad \qquad f({ x }^{ 2 }+yf(x))\quad =\quad xf(x+y).\\ \\ 4.\quad There\quad are\quad four\quad basket-ball\quad players\quad A,B,C,D.\\ Initially\quad the\quad ball\quad is\quad with\quad A.\quad The\quad ball\quad is\quad always\\ passed\quad from\quad one\quad person\quad to\quad a\quad different\quad person.\\ In\quad how\quad many\quad ways\quad can\quad the\quad ball\quad come\quad back\quad to\quad A\\ after\quad seven\quad passes?\quad (For\quad example\quad A\rightarrow C\rightarrow B\rightarrow \\ D\rightarrow A\rightarrow B\rightarrow C\rightarrow A\quad and\quad A\rightarrow D\rightarrow A\rightarrow D\rightarrow C\rightarrow A\rightarrow B\rightarrow A\quad \\ are\quad two\quad ways\quad in\quad which\quad the\quad ball\quad can\quad come\quad \\ before\quad to\quad A\quad after\quad seven\quad passes.)\\ \\ 5.\quad Let\quad ABCD\quad be\quad a\quad convex\quad quadilateral.\quad Let\quad the\quad \\ diagonals\quad AC\quad and\quad BD\quad intersect\quad in\quad P.\quad Let\quad PE,\quad \\ PF,\quad PG,\quad PH\quad be\quad the\quad altitudes\quad from\quad P\quad on\quad to\quad \\ sides\quad AB,\quad BC,\quad CD\quad and\quad AD\quad respectively.\quad Show\quad \\ that\quad ABCD\quad has\quad incircle\quad iff\quad \\ \qquad \qquad \qquad \frac { 1 }{ PE } +\frac { 1 }{ PG } =\frac { 1 }{ PF } +\frac { 1 }{ PH } .\\ \\ 6.\quad Show\quad that\quad from\quad a\quad set\quad of\quad all\quad 11\quad integers\quad \\ one\quad can\quad select\quad six\quad numbers\quad { a }^{ 2 },\quad { b }^{ 2 },\quad { c }^{ 2 },\quad { d }^{ 2 },\quad \\ { e }^{ 2 },\quad { f }^{ 2 }\quad such\quad that\quad \\ \qquad \qquad { a }^{ 2 }+{ b }^{ 2 }+{ c }^{ 2 }\equiv { d }^{ 2 }+{ e }^{ 2 }+{ f }^{ 2 }\quad (mod\quad 12).\)

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TopNewestProblem 1: Let the circumcircle of \(\triangle PQD\) intersect \(AC\) again at \(T\) and let \(O\) be the circumcenter of \(\triangle PIQ\). I claim that \(T= O\). Note that \(A, P, I\) are collinear since they all lie on the internal angle bisector of \(\angle BAC\). Similarly, \(C, Q, I\) are also collinear, so \(\angle PIQ = 90^{\circ} + \dfrac{\angle ABC}{2} = 135^{\circ}\). Also, \(\angle PDQ= 45^{\circ} + 45^{\circ}= 90^{\circ}\). Also, \(\angle POQ= 2 \angle PIQ - 180^{\circ}= 90^{\circ}= \angle PDQ\). It hence suffices to show that \(PT= QT\), which is true since both sides are equal to \(PQ \sin 45^{\circ}\).

Problem 2: The answer is \(\max \{v_2 (n), v_5 (n)\}\). I'll post my full proof later.

Problem 3 (the RHS should be \(xf(x+y)\)) : Set \(x=y=0\) to get \(f(0)=0\). Now set \(y=0\) to get \(f(x^2)= xf(x)\). Now setting \(x=y\), \(f(x^2 + f(x^2))= xf(2x)\). It follows that \(-x \cdot f(-2x)= x f(2x) \implies f(2x)= -f(2x)\), or \(f(x)=-f(x))\) for all \(x\). Now setting \(y= -x\), \(f(x^2 - f(x^2))= 0\), so \(f(x-f(x))=0\) for all positive \(x\). Since \(f(x-f(x))= -f(-x-f(-x))\), \(f(x-f(x)) =0\) for all negative \(x\) too. Now setting \(x: x-f(x)\) and \(y=f(x)\), we see that \(f((x-f(x))^2)= (x-f(x)) f(x) \implies (x-f(x))(f(x)=0\). Thus, either \(f(x)=0\) or \(f(x)= x\). If \(f(x)= x\) for some \(x \neq 0\), we get that for all \(y\), \(x f(x+y)= f(x^2)= xf(x)\), or equivalently, \(f(x+y)=f(x)\), i.e. \(f(x)\) is constant. But it's easy to see that if \(f(x)\) is constant, it must be zero. So either \(f(x)=0\) for all \(x\) or \(f(x)=x\) for all \(x\).

Problem 4: Let \(t_n\) denote the answer for \(n\) passes. It's easy to see that \(t_{n+1}= 3^n-t_n\), and from \(t_1= 0\), we can easily compute \(t_7\).

Problem 5: This is probably some tedious trig bash. Haven't tried it yet.

Problem 6: The quadratic residues mod 12 are \(0, 1, 4, 9\). If one of them appears six times, we can just take six copies of it. If one of them appears at least four times, say \(x\), then another one must appear at least twice, say \(y\), then we have \(x+x+y= x+x+y\). If all of them appear no more than three times, equality must hold, and modulo \(12\), the set must be four copies of \(0, 1, 4, 9\) each. Then we can just consider \(4+4+1= 9+0+0\). Note that the lower bound is tighter than \(11\)-- replacing \(11\) by \(9\) keeps the proof intact. – Sreejato Bhattacharya · 1 year, 11 months ago

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– Shourya Pandey · 1 year, 11 months ago

A lengthier computation shows that \( n=8\) works too, but \(n=7\) doesn't ; e.g \( 4,1,0,0,0,0,0\).Log in to reply

– Rajat Gupta · 1 year, 11 months ago

Did anyone get Question 6?? Can you explainLog in to reply

k, say), as divisibility by 3 is already shown, we can suppose \((a^{2} - d^{2}) + (b^{2} - e^{2}) + (c^{2} - f^{2})\) is divisible by 4 by a little PHP and different cases for \(a, b, c, d, e, f\) being odd and/or even.... So we have proved \(k\equiv 0\pmod{12} \) – Ravi Mistry · 1 year, 11 months agoLog in to reply

– Shubham Jain · 1 year, 11 months ago

Squares can be only 0,1,4,9 mod 12. Thus by php the modulo with maximum nos will have atleat 3 no.s if it has greater or equal to 6, then we are done. If it has 5 or 4, by php another modulo will have at least 2 no.s thus we are done. The only case with maximal 3 is 3332 hence proved.Log in to reply

– Rangeela Ras · 1 year, 11 months ago

Hi Sreejato in question 3 when you set x : x-f(x) then as f(x) = x , new variable x is identically 0 so can not be taken as variable capable of taking all values.Is this step of your correct ? Thanks for providing the solutionsLog in to reply

– Sreejato Bhattacharya · 1 year, 11 months ago

I don't understand your objection; I just plugged \(x-f(x)\) in place of \(x\).Log in to reply

– Shourya Pandey · 1 year, 11 months ago

Basically, she means that x-f (x) may not be an onto function, as there may not exist x such that x- f (x) equals , say, 5.Log in to reply

– Rangeela Ras · 1 year, 11 months ago

its not SHE its HE by the way :-)Log in to reply

– Sreejato Bhattacharya · 1 year, 11 months ago

I don't see how that's a problem. Whatever the value of \(x-f(x)\) is, I'm plugging it in place of \(x\).Log in to reply

– Rangeela Ras · 1 year, 11 months ago

yeah again my point is that the value of x -f(x) is zero (as final answer is f(x)=x) so effectively u r substituting x=0.now x can not take any other value. x can be substituted with x-f(x) only when u r sure that range of x-f(x) is R which clearly is not the case here. I hope i m making sense to u.Log in to reply

– Sreejato Bhattacharya · 1 year, 11 months ago

No such thing. Allow me to be a bit more formal: let \(P(x, y)\) be the proposition \(f(x^2+yf(x))= xf(x+y)\). I'm just considering \(P(x-f(x), f(x))\). The range of \(x-f(x)\) is irrelevant.Log in to reply

– Shourya Pandey · 1 year, 11 months ago

I am not saying that there is a problem with your solution. I was just expressing her argument.Log in to reply

– Rangeela Ras · 1 year, 11 months ago

hi Sreejato i said when u plug x - f(x) in place of x then new x is no more an independent variable in general as in this case x and f(x) are equal so x on lhs merely represent 0 and no more value can be assumed by it.Log in to reply

– Agnishom Chattopadhyay · 1 year, 11 months ago

I think you have a typo in the reccurenceLog in to reply

– Sreejato Bhattacharya · 1 year, 11 months ago

Where? I can't find anything wrong...Log in to reply

– Rajat Gupta · 1 year, 11 months ago

Can you explain the last answer?Log in to reply

A -> B-> A

A -> C -> A

A -> D -> A – Agnishom Chattopadhyay · 1 year, 11 months ago

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– Sreejato Bhattacharya · 1 year, 11 months ago

Oops, fixed.Log in to reply

– Shourya Pandey · 1 year, 11 months ago

So you too appeared for the INMO? How many did you get?Log in to reply

– Sreejato Bhattacharya · 1 year, 11 months ago

Nope, didn't qualify RMO. (Don't know why, I solved 5 problems there; probably because of my indecipherable handwriting.)Log in to reply

@Sreejato Bhattacharya – Surya Prakash · 1 year, 11 months ago

But you can write INMO because u qualified RMO 2013........Log in to reply

– Shourya Pandey · 1 year, 11 months ago

Nothing as such. Even I qualified RMO 13, but due to poor marks in INMO (23 marks), I had to start from scratch.Log in to reply

here – Rajdeep Dhingra · 1 year, 11 months ago

Guys Please helpLog in to reply

– Sreejato Bhattacharya · 1 year, 11 months ago

I could have if I didn't mess up that heavily last INMO (29).Log in to reply

– Siddhartha Srivastava · 1 year, 11 months ago

Nice. What do you think the cutoff will be?Log in to reply

– Sreejato Bhattacharya · 1 year, 11 months ago

I guess not more than 50.Log in to reply

– Siddhartha Srivastava · 1 year, 11 months ago

Hmm. I think it might be 50+. Everyone on AOPS got 4 to 3 questions correct.Log in to reply

here – Rajdeep Dhingra · 1 year, 11 months ago

Guys Please helpLog in to reply

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– Siddhartha Srivastava · 1 year, 11 months ago

How did you do that? The question specifically said to take \( 1/2 \) as \( 0.4999.... \), not \( 0.5 \). So technically, \( 1/n \) is never terminating.Log in to reply

– Shourya Pandey · 1 year, 11 months ago

I.e. I took the cases n = 2^a * 5^b and n = 2^a * 5^b * other primesLog in to reply

– Shourya Pandey · 1 year, 11 months ago

Ya I mean it is terminating in the sense without writing in that form.Log in to reply

sighI feel like kicking myself...). – Sreejato Bhattacharya · 1 year, 11 months agoLog in to reply

– Siddhartha Srivastava · 1 year, 11 months ago

Might be true, though I do think this year's paper had easier questions than last year. Last year's Q6 and Q3 were comparitively harder than any of the questions this year. Plus, everyone has a habit of overestimating their marks. No one in my center solved less than 6 questions in the RMO, even though the highest was 81. xDLog in to reply

Regarding people overestimating their marks, maybe they did solve 6 problems? I solved 5 in RMO (messed up the silly a.p problem) but ended up getting 63... I really have no idea why. :( But yeah, I assure you, most of the guys who claim to have solved 5-6 problems have solved no more than 2 (if that weren't the case last year, the cutoff would have been around 70). This happens every time. – Sreejato Bhattacharya · 1 year, 11 months ago

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Let X denote the set of members {B,C,D}. From given hypothesis we draw out the possible ways of passings.

\(A\rightarrow X\rightarrow A\rightarrow X\rightarrow X\rightarrow A\rightarrow X\rightarrow A\quad -\quad P1\\ A\rightarrow X\rightarrow X\rightarrow A\rightarrow X\rightarrow A\rightarrow X\rightarrow A\quad -\quad P2\\ A\rightarrow X\rightarrow X\rightarrow A\rightarrow X\rightarrow X\rightarrow X\rightarrow A\quad -\quad P3\\ A\rightarrow X\rightarrow X\rightarrow X\rightarrow A\rightarrow X\rightarrow X\rightarrow A\quad -\quad P4\\ A\rightarrow X\rightarrow X\rightarrow X\rightarrow X\rightarrow A\rightarrow X\rightarrow A\quad -\quad P5\\ A\rightarrow X\rightarrow X\rightarrow X\rightarrow X\rightarrow X\rightarrow X\rightarrow A\quad -\quad P6\\ A\rightarrow X\rightarrow A\rightarrow X\rightarrow A\rightarrow X\rightarrow X\rightarrow A\quad -\quad P7\\ A\rightarrow X\rightarrow A\rightarrow X\rightarrow X\rightarrow X\rightarrow X\rightarrow A\quad -\quad P8\)

no. of ways in P1 = 1x3x1x3x2x1x3x1 = 54........... no. of ways in P2 = 1x3x2x1x3x1x3x1 = 54........... no. of ways in P3 = 1x3x2x1x3x2x2x1 = 72........... no. of ways in P4 = 1x3x2x2x1x3x2x1 = 72........... no. of ways in P5 = 1x3x2x2x2x1x3x1 = 72........... no. of ways in P6 = 1x3x2x2x2x2x2x1 = 96........... no. of ways in P7 = 1x3x1x3x1x3x2x1 = 54........... no. of ways in P8 = 1x3x1x3x2x2x2x1 = 72...........

Total no. of ways = 546

How many marks can i get??? @Sreejato Bhattacharya @Siddhartha Srivastava @Chandrachur Banerjee – Surya Prakash · 1 year, 11 months ago

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– Chandrachur Banerjee · 1 year, 11 months ago

I used PIE on sets in which ONLY P2,P3,P4,P5 is A an the said job is done.Lastly aded to it the no. of ways in which the job can be done without A ocurring in the middle even once. PIE on 4 sets may seem tedious at first but recall that consecutive Pi cant be A so many sets in the expansion work out to 0 and wonderful part is that you have to calculate only 2 times(work it out and see),-------But the recursion way is very good.Log in to reply

– Surya Prakash · 1 year, 11 months ago

what do u mean by "PIE" on sets??Log in to reply

– Chandrachur Banerjee · 1 year, 11 months ago

PIE = Principle of Inclusion and Exclusion.And please dont tell it is not understandable , for i wrote the same acronym in INMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Log in to reply

– Chandrachur Banerjee · 1 year, 11 months ago

I dont know how to mention someone on brilliant. You please do it for me so that all INMO experts on brilliant can see my sad performance saga which i have posted and reply to it. Had i got the FE correct INMO wouldhave been really a wonderful journey for me even if i did not qualify.Anyways . . .Log in to reply

– Shourya Pandey · 1 year, 11 months ago

That's really strange. What was the cut - off in your region for RMO?Log in to reply

– Sreejato Bhattacharya · 1 year, 11 months ago

Sixty five. And I scored 63. :|Log in to reply

I tried; couldn't convince my parents it was a mistake on the grader's part. – Sreejato Bhattacharya · 1 year, 11 months ago

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Yes. – Siddhartha Srivastava · 1 year, 11 months ago

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You aren't talking about my solution, are you? I think I'm the only one who posted a solution for the FE on AOPS, at least the only one in the INMO Prep thread.

The topper got 81 marks. Even then, I'm from North Bihar. I honestly doubt more than 2 to 3 people solved all 6.

You can file an RTI to see your paper. A guy at my center did that. – Siddhartha Srivastava · 1 year, 11 months ago

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– Chandrachur Banerjee · 1 year, 11 months ago

How come you r 27???Or r u not talking about this year's RMO????????Log in to reply

– Siddhartha Srivastava · 1 year, 11 months ago

Not my real age.Log in to reply

– Abhishek Gupta · 1 year, 11 months ago

I think the cut-off is going to be something between 65-70. I managed 4 questions but I don't think I will qualify this year.Log in to reply

– Chandrachur Banerjee · 1 year, 11 months ago

Oh please don't give such comments after having solved 4. For those like me who have got 2 it seems THE GREAT INDIAN MELODRAMA.Honestly.Log in to reply

– Abhishek Gupta · 1 year, 11 months ago

I wasn't being melodramatic. I was just saying I think I won't qualify. I can of course qualify if things work out but I am not crying about solving 4.Log in to reply

I scored 84 :) – Shourya Pandey · 1 year, 11 months ago

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– Sreejato Bhattacharya · 1 year, 11 months ago

Congratulations!Log in to reply

– Siddharth G · 1 year, 11 months ago

Awesome! Did you get 5 completely correct?Log in to reply

– Shourya Pandey · 1 year, 11 months ago

I think I was just overimagining things by thinking that I had messed up the second question. My solution to that question was correct, so I solved 5 questions correctly (All except the fifth question).Log in to reply

I got my performance card and I secured 39 marks in it. Please post ur marks too. @Sreejato Bhattacharya @Siddhartha Srivastava @Shourya Pandey @Rajat Gupta @Rajat Gupta @rangeela ras – Surya Prakash · 1 year, 11 months ago

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– Shubham Jain · 1 year, 11 months ago

I got 45, in 10 In which class are you?Log in to reply

I solved no. 6 like this i wanna ask that is this correct. x ^{2} is congruent to 0,1,4,9 mod12 =》from set of 11 we can choose a^2 & d^2 such that a ^2 is congruent to d^2 mod12 by PH Thus the problem reduces to choosing 4 no.'s from 9. Again by PHP one can choose b^2 & e^2 such that b ^2 is congruent to e^2 mod12.And again theproblem reduces and againapplying PHP one can see that there exists a^{2}+b^{2}+c ^{2 }is congruent to d^{2}+e^{2}+f^{2 }mod.12 . – Aman Anand · 1 year, 11 months ago

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– Siddhartha Srivastava · 1 year, 11 months ago

That should be correct. Why didn't I think of that. :/Log in to reply

http://www.artofproblemsolving.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=362&t=623487&start=260

You can check this thread for my post summarizing all marks. – Shubham Jain · 1 year, 11 months ago

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has everyone received his marksheets if yes post your marks – Kumar Pratyush · 1 year, 11 months ago

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– Siddhartha Srivastava · 1 year, 11 months ago

I got 51. You?Log in to reply

– Kumar Pratyush · 1 year, 11 months ago

messed it up 24 but hope to do better in 11th class , any other students of whom you know the markLog in to reply

– Siddhartha Srivastava · 1 year, 11 months ago

From North Bihar? Ishan Tarunesh got 43.(He posted somewhere in this threa.). Two students from DAV got ~30 and ~10. Don't know about the rest. I'll ask them about other people from DAV.Log in to reply

– Kumar Pratyush · 1 year, 11 months ago

ya two of micheals have got 16 and 1 got 19Log in to reply

Hi ,i got 73 in inmo. – Kapil Pause · 1 year, 11 months ago

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Guys do you know any book for Geometry .

It should be good with difficult problems.Same as those which come in RMO,INMO,IMO – Rajdeep Dhingra · 1 year, 11 months ago

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Geometry Revisited , it is a fantastic book. You can also get the free pdf here. – Samuel Jones · 1 year, 11 months ago

You should seeLog in to reply

– Raushan Sharma · 1 year ago

Try Sharygin, it's the best book for IMO Geometry, and also for INMO. Our teacher at INMOTC referred us that book.Log in to reply

– Rajdeep Dhingra · 1 year ago

Any other books or resources or tips given to you at INMOTCLog in to reply

– Raushan Sharma · 1 year ago

For combinatorics, we were provided Combinatorial Problems in Mathematical Competitions, and yeah Problem Solving Strategies is also one of the best for INMO and IMO.Log in to reply

– Rajdeep Dhingra · 1 year ago

How was INMO ?Log in to reply

– Raushan Sharma · 1 year ago

Did u also give INMO this time??Log in to reply

– Rajdeep Dhingra · 1 year ago

Nope.Log in to reply

– Raushan Sharma · 1 year ago

Ya, it was alright!! I solved 2 and a half :3Log in to reply

in the last ques. cant we apply php ??? we can directly conclude the solution..... for divisiblity of a perfect square we can be use the fact that a perfect square is of form 3k+1 or 3k and such nos are of form 4k-1 or 4k...... and since div by 12 is reqd

we show by cases that the difference of the expression is individually divisible by 3 and 4 plss reply if its orrect... i have also appeared for INMO and want to know if im correct – Sourav Mishra · 1 year, 11 months ago

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– Kumar Pratyush · 1 year, 11 months ago

even i did the same and i proved that by php that we can find 6 integers such that the above expression is div. by 3 and 4 but i did a conceptual error that these six integers may not be the same , meanwhile how much did you get in which class are you and from which regionLog in to reply

– Sourav Mishra · 1 year, 11 months ago

im in class 11 from jharkhand region ...Log in to reply

– Kumar Pratyush · 1 year, 11 months ago

how much marks did you getLog in to reply

did anyone got inmo performance card ?? what would be expected cutoff? i scored 45,any chances – Jawahar Vasanth · 1 year, 11 months ago

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Hey everyone, I just received my performance card, and it says I scored 43/100, How do I know the cutoff? – Ishan Tarunesh · 1 year, 11 months ago

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Also, I met you I think. Weren't you the guy who had also given the INAO? How did that go?

EDIT:- Also, how many questions did you solve? I wasn't able to talk to you after the exam. – Siddhartha Srivastava · 1 year, 11 months ago

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– Ishan Tarunesh · 1 year, 11 months ago

Yes, That did not go very well, How much did you score in INMO?, You were the one in KV GMO right? As far problems, I think 2 completely and one almost completelyLog in to reply

Edit:- Just got it. 51/102 – Siddhartha Srivastava · 1 year, 11 months ago

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– Siddhartha Srivastava · 1 year, 11 months ago

Oh. Do you know the marks of the other FIITJEE people?Log in to reply

– Kumar Pratyush · 1 year, 11 months ago

how much did you get in inaoLog in to reply

@Sreejato Bhattacharya @Surya Prakash @Prasun Biswas

Guys could you tell me how to prepare for RMO.Books and resources – Rajdeep Dhingra · 1 year, 11 months ago

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I solved no. 6 like this i wanna ask that is this correct. x ^2 is congruent to 0,1,4,9 mod12 =》from set of 11 we can choose a^2 & d^2 such that a ^2 is congruent to d^2 mod12 by PH Thus the problem reduces to choosing 4 no.'s from 9. Again by PHP one can choose b^2 & e^2 such that b ^2 is congruent to e^2 mod12.And again theproblem reduces and againapplying PHP one can see that there exists a^2+b^2+c ^2 is congruent to d^2+e^2+f^2 mod.12 . – Aman Anand · 1 year, 11 months ago

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Someone told me that Mumbai region people get their scorecards by end of 2nd or start of 3rd week. Anyway, HBCSE told me that everyone will get the cards by 28 Feb.. Can't wait – Shubham Jain · 1 year, 11 months ago

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I did something in the 5th one... I used the incircles' radii characterization to solve the problem :P

I don't think I will get marks on the 5th one...

What do you think ? – Utkarsh Gupta · 1 year, 11 months ago

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– Neelima Borade · 1 year, 11 months ago

has anyone proved that a quadrilateral has an incircle if the property given is true in the 5th problem?If so how ?Log in to reply

when does the result of inmo come out? – Siddharth Nohria · 1 year, 11 months ago

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– Utkarsh Gupta · 1 year, 11 months ago

Mid March it should be :) I am more worried as the official solutions haven't be released yet which is weird considering that all other INOs' answer keys were uploaded the very next day :/Log in to reply

– Shubham Jain · 1 year, 11 months ago

they have been released now... Check past year's question papers and solutionsLog in to reply

– Sreejato Bhattacharya · 1 year, 11 months ago

Um, I got my scorecard last time before March. It all depends-- it probably takes some time for the scorecard to reach West Bengal. Unless the HBCSE guys mess up heavily (like last time, they sent the scorecard of one of my friends to Aurangabad instead of Durgapur), you should get them within the first week of March. The results, however, will probably be officially declared mid-March, just like last time.Log in to reply

– Siddhartha Srivastava · 1 year, 11 months ago

Mid March? That's very far away... I thought late Feb at worst. And forget INMO, they haven't released RMO answer keys yet. Also, are you utkarshgupta on AOPS?Log in to reply

And yes, after the reevaluation and everything, the results are declared by Mid March – Utkarsh Gupta · 1 year, 11 months ago

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– Siddhartha Srivastava · 1 year, 11 months ago

Yes. I'm on AOPS as well, but don't go there often. Also, I thought you meant scorecards. When do you think we will get scorecards?Log in to reply

I decided to take a short break and write my analysis. I'm expecting 40 - 45; please comment on what you think i should get.

Hidden Text Q1 --> I could not proceed at all in this question. I drew the diagram, wrote formula for inradius and circumradius, tried to simplify it and left it at that. Expecting 0-1 marks.

Q2 --> I took that 1/n has periodic length 0 if it is coprime to 2 and 5 as a lemma ( I Think it was in some NCERT that it starts repeating immediately, so i thought it was obvious ) and then proved for the other case, when n has powers of 2 and/or 5 as a factor. I think they should give me 9 - 10 for one case, but to be safe, i consider that i get 4 marks.

Q3 --> I can't believe i messed this up so bad. I got f(xsq) = xf(x) and f(0) = 0, then f(xsq. - f(xsq.)) = 0, and then used an argument that the function is increasing, by putting n and 2n or something (i can't exactly remember) and stated that if it was strictly increasing, it must be one to one, thus xsq. = f(xsq.) = xf(x) and thus, f(x) = x. i forgot that f(x) could be 0, since the argument for strictly increasing had a product relation, and thus could be 0. Even assuming my argument was flawed, i feel that i deserve 4 marks atleast, since i had essentially derived everything to complete the proof. (As someone pointed out, using f(xsq) = xf(x), if f(xsq) = 0, either x = 0 or f(x) = 0. if x = 0, xsq = 0 therefore only f(0) = 0 if f(x) unequal to 0.)

Q4 --> Super silly, since i pride myself on being able to apply basic combinatorics. I guess not being able to do maths the last 15 days took its toll. anyways, i did 7 cases and forgot one with 54 possibilities, thus getting 492. i think i deserve 13, since the approach was correct and for a case they usually only cut 3-4 per case.

Q5 --> i thought this was easy when i saw the paper, but was soon proved wrong.i wrote that ab + cd = bc + ad and then noted that PEAH etc. were cyclic quadrilaterals, then named 4 angles as w,x,y,z and did some angle chasing, expressed ab,bc,da in PE,PF,PH but could not get the expression for PG from CD. i think i could not complete the angle chasing, since otherwise i'd be done. Thus, used sine rule, left the expression unsimplified. Expecting 2 marks.

Q6 --> 17.

so that would be why i expect 40 marks. Please do tell me what you think ill get :P i think i have a 5% chance at merit certificate and 1% chance at camp. Guess im overestimating :D – Shubham Jain · 1 year, 11 months ago

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– Akshat Lad · 1 year, 11 months ago

We cannot assume whether one shall qualify or not but 40-45 is good in INMO. Certificate of Merit is given up to class 10th only (as of what I know, maybe...) and perhaps you are in 11th (because your age is 17).Log in to reply

– Shubham Jain · 1 year, 11 months ago

I am in 10th and my real age is 15 :)Log in to reply

– Akshat Lad · 1 year, 11 months ago

Then you should surely get CoM, if not selection... :-)Log in to reply

– Chandrachur Banerjee · 1 year, 11 months ago

I have not done probability so well, so cant tell.Log in to reply

You did How many Questions Drumil and in which class you are?? – Akshat Lad · 1 year, 11 months ago

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– Drumil Trivedi · 1 year, 11 months ago

3.5 and i'm in tenthLog in to reply

Also for the fifth question _ Since AB + CD = BC + AD Area of quadrilateral =\[ \sqrt{abcd - abcd cos^{2}((A+C)/2)}\] = sum of areas of triangles . I think equating we will get it – Drumil Trivedi · 1 year, 11 months ago

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Hi for the fourth question can the following be the solution - Starting from A every person has three options to pass to (since he cannot pass to himself ) except the last person who has only option A to pass to and hence there are 3^6 ways of doing so ! However if A ends up to be at the second last position this is not possible and hence the no. of ways A ends to be second last is 3^5 . Also a s palindromes are not possible the total no of ways is 2*(3^5) – Drumil Trivedi · 1 year, 11 months ago

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– Sreejato Bhattacharya · 1 year, 11 months ago

It's not that simple. Consider the case when A has the ball after the third last pass. In this case, A has three choices for the second last pass. However, if the ball were with someone else after the third last pass, he/she would have two choices for the second last pass (can't give the ball to A). Your argument is flawed there.Log in to reply

– Shubham Jain · 1 year, 11 months ago

I would say his approach is correct. We can proceed by inclusion exclusion and thus the answer is 3^6 - 3^5 + 3^4 - 3^3 +3^2 - 3. BTW, you are anonymous bunny on aops right? Big fan :P u had bad luck this year .Log in to reply

Hey, can u all simply post your expected marks and expected cut-off please... – Akshat Lad · 1 year, 11 months ago

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My performance summary: <<<1>>>Proceeded a little going by Sreejato's soln. Found all the values you got by angle chasing(PIQ,PDQ,POQ). <<<2>>>Did only trivial case n=2^p5^q which will be max(p,q).For primes for which i exists such that 5*10^i<p<10^i+1 ans is 0 by fermat's little theorem but (GOD knows how)wrote the length of the periodic part instead(order of 10 mod p).Anyways so got only the composite powers of 2 and 5.(Please post your solution fast, your answer shows it must be a beautiful solution) <<<3>>>proved only f(0)=0,f(x^2)=xf(x) and that f is odd.Could not proceed furthur. <<< 4>>>Got it full correct.Used PIE. <5>Just left it. <<<6>>>Got full correct.Used PHP 3 times.--------------------- So that was all about my performance in the first and last INMO of my life.At present i am pretty much disappointed about it. Shudve got 3 correct.Whatever i just want you to tell me how much partial marks i can get for 1,2,3.Please post your opinions fast.I just want to clear my dilema and let myself move on from this sad stage. – Chandrachur Banerjee · 1 year, 11 months ago

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– Sreejato Bhattacharya · 1 year, 11 months ago

I believe you're getting around 10 in the first problem. Not sure about your score on problem 2, but tacking the "trivial case" won't fetch more than 5. In problem 3, you just solved 80% of that problem, so I guess at least 10. I'm not sure how you used PHP in problem 4, care to post your full solution? Yeah, problem 5 was a bit too hard.Log in to reply

– Chandrachur Banerjee · 1 year, 11 months ago

Consider A>P1>P2>P3>P4>P5>P6>A.------------------------------- Now P1 and P6 cant be A.So ------------------------------ Let Ai={No. of ways in which the said job is done when ONLY Pi is A}for i=2,3,4,5---------------------------------- Then i used PIE on A2,A3,A4,A5, i.e calculated |A2 U A3 U A4 U A5|.(See thats easy as consecutive Pi cant be A so many sets contribute 0 to the counting by definition)--------------------Lastly added the no. of ways in which no Pi is A and got 546.Log in to reply

– Siddhartha Srivastava · 1 year, 11 months ago

Wow. That seems long. Though if you did get the answer, I doubt they'll cut marks for length.Log in to reply

– Chandrachur Banerjee · 1 year, 11 months ago

Ya but though it was long i had to calculate at only 3 places. As far as i have heard they don't go by length ever.The recursion way was definitely the best however.Log in to reply

– Chandrachur Banerjee · 1 year, 11 months ago

Not PHP yaar, i used PIE(Principle of Inclusion and Exclusion).I have given a sketch of my solution to P4 in this note (see a bit above).Well i am totally confident in P4 and P6.Just tell me what to expect on the scorecard.Log in to reply

– Chandrachur Banerjee · 1 year, 11 months ago

Please Sreejato reply to this thread.Log in to reply

how many marks will be removed if for example the whole answer is correct but at the conclusion, 54+54+72+72+72+96+54+72=492 is written but its 546. @Sreejato Bhattacharya @Siddhartha Srivastava – Surya Prakash · 1 year, 11 months ago

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– Sreejato Bhattacharya · 1 year, 11 months ago

If you got the recursion correct, trivial computation errors won't cost you more than 2-3.Log in to reply

– Surya Prakash · 1 year, 11 months ago

I got the recursion correctLog in to reply

– Sreejato Bhattacharya · 1 year, 11 months ago

Then it should be at least a 15.Log in to reply

I just messed the question 4. – Surya Prakash · 1 year, 11 months ago

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Typo in Q3. It should be \( xf(x+y) \), not \( x(x+y) \).

Also, how did your paper go? @Surya Prakash

EDIT:- Enclose only the numerical terms in LaTeX. Try not to enclose text. – Siddhartha Srivastava · 1 year, 11 months ago

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Typo in the 3rd question. – Siddharth G · 1 year, 11 months ago

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Please post solutions. @Sreejato Bhattacharya @brian charlesworth @Sravan Chinta @Sanjeet Raria @megh choksi – Surya Prakash · 1 year, 11 months ago

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i am class 10th scored 35 can i expect merit certificate.( i know i wont qualify for sure.) – Ashish R Nair · 1 year, 11 months ago

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My score is 45. What will be the expected cutoff ? – Siddharth Chandak · 1 year, 11 months ago

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– Shubham Jain · 1 year, 11 months ago

I got 45 too. Expected is around 55.Log in to reply

I recieved my Performance Card today. Secured only 41. Any chances? – Keshav Gupta · 1 year, 11 months ago

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Has anyone solved the 5th problem both ways ? – Neelima Borade · 1 year, 11 months ago

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– Kapil Pause · 1 year, 11 months ago

It is solved on aops by both synthetic and other methods http://www.artofproblemsolving.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=623459 BTW official solution is also goodLog in to reply

Is the following solution of problem 3 of INMO correct.

Let f be const. function. =>f(x)=0 Let f is not a const. function. Putting x=0 & f(0)=a, =>f(ay)=0 'y 'is a variable and' a'is const. & f is not a constant function. =>ay=const. =>a=0 Thus if f(x)=0 then x=0 &f(0)=0 Now putting y= -x, We get f(x^2 - x.f(x))=0 =>x^2 - x.f(x)=0 =>f(x)=x Therefore f(x)=0,x – Aman Anand · 1 year, 11 months ago

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– Siddhartha Srivastava · 1 year, 11 months ago

You proved that \( f(0) = 0 \). You haven't proved that \( f(x) = 0 \) implies \( x = 0 \).Log in to reply

i've got 5 correct answers . is there any chance of me being selected for the camp – Rahul Agrawal · 1 year, 11 months ago

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– Shubham Jain · 1 year, 11 months ago

Writing them well is the trick.Log in to reply

– Siddhartha Srivastava · 1 year, 11 months ago

Depends on how many marks you get. Though with 5 questions correct, you should get in easily.Log in to reply

Guys, Please tell me if my solution is correct.

Q3. Putting \(y = 0\) in the equation, we get \(f(x^{2}) = xf(x)\). Therefore, \(f(x) = \sqrt{x}f(\sqrt{x}) = \sqrt{x} \cdot \sqrt{\sqrt{x}}f(\sqrt{\sqrt{x}}) =............= x^{\frac {1}{2} + \frac {1}{4} +.............+ \frac {1}{2^{n}}} \cdot f(x^{\frac {1}{2^{n}}})\). Now applying \(lim\) \(n\rightarrow \infty \) on both sides, we get \(f(x) = x \cdot f(1)\). Taking \(f(1) = c\), we get \(f(x) = cx\). Putting this in the original equation, we get \(cx^{2} + c^{2}xy = cx^{2} + cxy\) \(\Rightarrow\) \(c^{2} = c\) \(\Rightarrow\) \(c = 0\) or \(1\). Thus we get \(f(x) = 0\) or \(f(x) = x\) for all \(x\). – Ayush Kumar · 1 year, 11 months ago

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– Siddhartha Srivastava · 1 year, 11 months ago

You don't know if the function is continuous. Therefore you can't apply limit.Log in to reply

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Anyways, serious answer: INMO. – Sreejato Bhattacharya · 1 year, 11 months ago

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– Chandrachur Banerjee · 1 year, 11 months ago

Ya it was just a spell-binding question!!!!Hee-HeeLog in to reply

– Agnishom Chattopadhyay · 1 year, 11 months ago

Are you kidding?Log in to reply

– Chandrachur Banerjee · 1 year, 11 months ago

I think INMO is the toughest exam on maths in India at the school level. Its full-form explains it!!Log in to reply

– Shourya Pandey · 1 year, 11 months ago

INMO , definitely!Log in to reply

JEE Advanced is tough due to immense competition and the time constraint. – Karan Siwach · 1 year, 11 months ago

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– Uttaran Choudhurry · 1 year, 11 months ago

I think as a whole JEE advanced is more tough......as you have to study all maths ,physics and chemistry properly.........but if you compare only maths then obviously INMO is the hardest..Log in to reply