First of all congrats to all those who have been selected for the interview.Its indeed a great achievement as lot many appear in this prestigious exam .So we have abt 1-2 months left for the interview.So you guys can give suggestions on the interview like which subject to choose,questions related to that etc.I welcome suggestions from you all.From my school we have got 46 selections in which 32 are from SA and rest from sx.
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Top NewestSo the kvpy interview is over.I am gonna share my experience.For me it was scheduled to be held at 9:00 am in NISER,Bhubaneswar. I reached there by 8:15.quite a far place.abt 22km from Bhubaneswar.It was adjacent to IIT,Bbsr.My interview started at 9:45 am after the completion of 2 students.The first one is a friend of mine(I don't know him much) who said after his that the interview board is quite friendly.that seemed a good gesture.So when I entered I just introduced my self,what I liked to do.etc.They asked what I had for breakfast and it was maggi for me.so they readily asked(chem) what chemical led to the controversy in maggi case.I didn't know.but anyways the person had himself told that this is not related to interview.so now of started.my topic was wave-particle duality,photoelectric effect and modern phy....somi was asked to explain photoelectric effect.on board which I did.then the physics prof asked me to split the work function into constituents.I did that it was binding energy+energy to remove that from the influence of all other interacting forces.then the mam asked on wave prop.then maths.I knew him as he is the director of institute of maths(where I had attended inmotcs in class 10,11)even he had felicitated me this yr for being 3rd in state in rmo.so he asked to prove that sum(j^99)j=1,2,3,4,5.was divisible by 5.I did that quite easily and could even generalise the case although it wasn't asked.the interview board seemed quite happy.I proceeded to factorise and proof the generalisation. And he didn't allow me to complete as he saw the first few steps and said "oh come on you can do after this quite easy" then something on relations.which I replied that I have not studied.and he said that it wasn't a big thing.I could do it anytime.then I was asked some conversions in organic although I didn't know them he didn't tell much and asked what I will do in future I said that I will do research (in mathematical aspect of physics) and they seemed quite impressed.and the next was a staple q(do you really want to join jee or do research)I genuinely replied research(as that's what I really wanna do).it came to an end and theybjust asked if I wanted anything to get clarified. I just asked what I can do to promote my interest as a student.The chem one replied that I was doing really well and I will do so.that made me feel quite ecstatic.and that was the end.later the director of niser(perhaps)wanted to meet my father.as he seemed to be quite happy with my perforomance.Later I went to canteen(some drinks)and returned.Believe me it was very big and great campus.and on way I even went to IIT bbsr.it is still under construction.nothing much but the field there is quite big.and it will look beautiful after some years.
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Your interview went quite well plus aptitude marks = top 10 for you.
Congrats!
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No chance of top 10.I know a guy paean who is scoring as high in 90.and mine is 73.so its quite tough.but I expect a rank of within 100.BTW what's the highest in kvpy from yours state.I don't know sarthaks but his is mostly in 78-80.
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According to that if you equalise last year your rank will be in the range 25-50 (considering difficulty the same as last year).
I Got about 70 in test and 81 in interview ended with 59 .
My friend got 73 in test and 75 in interview ended with around 50.
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Any idea about what he told your father?
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No nothing much he asked me where is your father.I just introduced him.And he told something which I didn't hear awe stood a bit away from him...He seemed to be a good person.
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Hence time period = 2pi*sqrt(m/kx^2) i know its not logical at all but one of professors of the panel told my friend this :P :P
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8x(o)^((1-n)/2)/w(n+1)int(sin@^\((2/n+1)d@)).with @ varying from 0−π/2 and w2=2k/m(n+1) Here the numbers 2/n+1)accompanying sin@ is the power that sin has been rairaised to.and the no1−n/2accompanying the x(o)term is a power .
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.sin@=e(iy)−e(−iy)/2i.Most probably the binomially expanding yieldmsome thing but then that's not in closed form. No don't work it becomes tedious.
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(√π)/2T\((n+3)/2(n+1)/T(n+2)/(n+1)). T is the gamma function
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@A E Can you share pdf?
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Thus it is worth learning even from jee point of view i guess.
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Best of luck @Harsh Shrivastava.for your interview tomorrow.do share your experience tomorrow.just stay calm and give your best.you gonna rock it☺☺
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Thnx!
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Wish you all a prosperous holi! :)
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Yup same to you..........
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Same 2 u bro .....
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Happy holi to all 😀
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Be confident , there main target is to check your confidence , they will try to just confuse you in your concepts itself and they will question you continuously , you just need to answer them with full confidence and correctness . And never answer those q which you don't know as wrong answers are not encouraged there and be upto the point , don't add extra waste things to your answer .
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Thanx for your suggestions.will they be asking questions from all the 4 subjects.
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Depends , for me , they ask my favourite subject (Physics ) and then they asked for maths also .
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My score in Bio was just around 6 :P
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will bio question would be asked to a pcm student
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I can't really gurantee that , but according to me they won't do such things . They understand the problem of students .
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Yup all the best @Harsh Shrivastava
I Will give just one advice. clearly say if you dont know an answer . dont blindly guess . stay calm, cool take your time to think upon the problem. you will rock it
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Thnx!
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in my school only 3 people have been selected 1 sa and 2 in sx
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mine is 14.
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Hey looks like you qualified nsec.from your discussion.this is indeed a grt achievement considering the fact that you are in 11.which state and about your kvpy(when is it)
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Mine is 14/2 =7th rank
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@Aniket Sanghi @Prakhar Bindal
How is class 12th jee preparation is it more difficult than class 11th?
My class 11 is about to end.
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Nothing is difficult in this whole world ... stop thinking about that and let the studies keep going...
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I Would not say difficult (class 12) just its a bit bigger than class 11 in terms of syllabus . but class 12 mostly has 55-60% weightage in JEE So you can understand its importance.
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@Harsh Shrivastava.can you share with me some questions that theyasked you in your interview.
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I was the last one to be interviewed so they asked me easy questions.
First they asked me C1+C2+C3+C4+....Cn prove this in two ways.
Then they asked a multinomial type question .
Then an easy physics question was asked.
Then some easy electrophilic addition question was asked.
That's all.Best of luck!
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How was aiits? @Spandan Senapati @A E @Aniswar S K
I committed so many silly mistakes! :( Dont know when will i stop it :(
Srsly i dont know why i commit so many mistakes :(
My score=20+27+48(cmp)
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We have a screwed up schedule here.I told you.Here they conduct exams from 6-9pm and they don't put the answer keys even.How did you get the answer keys......I will be telling tomorrow.
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6-9 pm!!
Overall howasit?
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(8/35)v/ug.
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Ya.I checked the key it's so incorrect....Maths in a matrix I got-4(Hyperbola)The physics is wrong as well.Esp the first 2 questions.....(Now as per the incorrect key I got (33+25+57).Don't know but in maths the coefficient of(term independent of x is given wrong)...And they also gave that meso compound one wrong.Seriously I hate fiitjee exams for their incorrect answer keys.....
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Yeah m,any are wrong i dont know why but in every exam it occurs :\
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See archive page number-65 jee advanced 2016 multi choice question 1 for a similar question.
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@Spandan Senapati - Yah i got it now. First i considered even atmospheric pressure thats why i got some extra variables. Thanks.
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@Spandan Senapati -- in that 65th question how to relate the rate of increase of temperature and speed of piston?? i tried something like PdV + VdP = nRdT. dV=Adx & dP=kdx/A since P=kx/A. and then divide both sides by dt. but then i am not getting that 3/8 in the answer.
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For 64 make use of the fact that the max theoretical increment in temperature accounts for the increase in internal energy =Increment in potential energy so nCv(T−To)=Mgh and nRTo=(p+∆p)V.It's a valid supposition that initially the Tempnof the air inside is To
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Hey there is a thing that the piston is nt massless so Weca t equate the forces perhaps.
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@Spandan Senapati, @Harsh Shrivastava, @A E try this https://brilliant.org/problems/down-she-goes/
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I am getting a non integral answer, I used energy conservation and the fact that since string is inextensible,velocity along them would reduce to zero though I may be wrong.
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I haven't tried it but is the bead fixed.Or the situation is just like a catenary.(chain hanging between 2 walls)
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And I guess we are gonna receive the Kvpy results soon.Let's hope for the best.Lastyr it was declared on 22nd.March
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I am doubtful about mine.
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I also wrote momentum impulse equations.
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@shubham dhull
bhai ye dekh
https://www.change.org/p/cbse-do-lenient-in-cbse-physics-exam-2017-for-class-xii
Itna mushkil to nhi tha paper?
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ghanta mushkil tha :P agar 5-6 number grace de di to mere to 100 paar jayenge number :P balki set-3 tha sabse mushkil maine saare set dekhe the haina bhai ? tere kitne aajenge btade bhai plz ?
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now i'm feeling bad about bragging too much without even knowing my real marks , just hope i get what i want btw math mein fatti padi hai bhai help @Prakhar Bindal
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@Spandan Senapati @Harsh Shrivastava @A E Sorry to Disturb
For us Differential Calculus got over.
Have you got any source for challenging problems??
I searched brilliant and mostly found integration problems!
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For us definite integration is over.So I solve integration ones from Ronak aggarwals feed.Differential calculus I too want some good source.I think harsh can help us better.some questions from ronaks feed are quite tough.do try them.
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Sure. Lets see what harsh has got to say!
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For us even function is not over!!!!
BTW I guess there is an acute shortage of diferrential calculus problems !
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@Spandan Senapati @Harsh Shrivastava A question!
A parallel plate capacitor is completely filled with a dielectric sheet of thickness d and relative permittivity k is placed on a horizontal tabletop. The lower plate is glued with the tabletop and the dielectric slab is glued with the lower plate. The plates are square of edge length l and mass of the upper plate is m. The plates are given a charge +q and -q, then the upper plate is shifted horizontally by a small distance x along one of its edges and set free. Find the period of oscillation of this plate. Thickness d of the dielectric is much smaller than the edge length l.
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Thanks let me try.
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Us the answer..T=2πL/Q(2mϵkd)(0.5).I solved using energy conservation as there would be fringing fields here and directly calculation of the force may be difficult....
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In the answer there is a factor of 8. I don't know how they got it. T=(8l/q)(e0kmlx/d)0.5 and pi is not there!!
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Try this way let an external agent displace the upper plate by a distance X then W(agent)+W(capacitor)=0 .Since for an isolated system in the absence of dissipation forces the energy remains conserved. Now since electric force is conservative W(capacitor)=−dU Where the second term represents the change in potential energy. Since no external potential is appliedU=Q2/2C.Now when we displace the plates by x say then U=L2ϵ/d2+x2.Now put that in the equation F=dU/dx. and terms of the order x2 can be neglected. This gives F=ψx. But we don't have any agent performing so the force applied by other charges on this is f=−F. So the plate exhibits SHM.Find T=2π/ω
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I am sorry. It's incorrect. Didn't notice that the dielectric has thickness much smaller than the edge length....
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It would be better with a diagram. But I don't see what thickness means here. Anyways we begin by noticing that when the plates of a capacitor are displaced then the capacitance of the system is given by Aϵ/d.where A is the projected common area.So Here A=L(L−x) . Now C=kL(L−x)/d. Force by the other charges on this plate is F=−dU/dx. U=Q2/2C.Note that the charge remains the same but σ changes..Using this you get ma=−kQ2d/2mϵL3. Now that we have acceleration as negative means it's gonna come back to its natural position, overshoot and head to an amplitude, return back. So t=4(2x/a) The constant 4 for in one complete cycle it covers4x distance.So this yieldst=8L/Q(mkϵLx/d) .I used d as the distance between the plates. God knows how it's the thickness. Lol. Got It? And the thing wrong in the previous solution was the expression for capacitance...
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Nice one!!
This means we must not expect everything to be shm!!
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And to the other question(on pressure) that you had posted I got V2=αb/(k2−1).If the dielectric slab completely fills the space then studying the distribution of charges the net field at position ofa face of e dielectric is σ/2ϵ(1+1/k).The charge on the face is σ(1−1/k)(on!y magnitude).Thus thethe pressure is b=σ2/2ϵ(1−1/k2)(for the limiting case).Again σ=CV/A=kϵV/d.Plugging in the prev exp gives b=V2ϵ/2d(k2−1)Thus V2=αb/(k2−1).....Although I think if not completely filled then the dependence will be on C specifically(and thus t,k
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I took the field to be sigma/k. But we must consider the field due to other charges excluding the charge layer itself
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I have a nice question in physics. Will post it soon.Do try.
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All the past qualifiers/having experience of interview are requested to comment on this forum.@Prakhar Bindal,@Aniket Sanghi and all.
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Which topic will you chose in physics?
I guess I would chose maths and sub topic integration.
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I will most probably go with black holes or relativity.I need to discuss with my teacher.
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Will they ask from our favorite topic?
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Just revising definitions.
Wbu?
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BTW do you know abt a full open test of Fiitjee scheduled at 12th Feb.Its like AITS.
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The advanced paper is also just too simple.
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I Got AIR 2 In AITS Open test advanced with a score of 411/504 missing the 1st rank by 1 mark (topper scored 412) :P . sorry if i have boasted myself :P
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Chem was as usual bad in paper 1 involving some pretty bad inorganic chemistry . as a result i got 62 in paper 1 .
Physics was quite easy . the reason for my not so good in physics (66 in paper 2 and 68 in paper 1 ) was that i hadn't done fluids at that point coz i missed classes of surface tension. so i left 2 problems in paper 2 and one in paper 1 of it .
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Congrats bro!!for kvpy.you also like basketball??can you do those dunks??
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Well I can touch the rim and yeah, in some street courts ,I can dunk where rim is low, also my school ring is very low so I can easily dunk there.
BTW u follow NBA?'coz this season there are some hell weird transactions.
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Mine favourite team is GSW,yours?
Also you play at which position?I am 5'10'' and rigid so I play usually center+shooting guard.
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Congrats to u too.Nsep+kvpy is awesome!!
What abt rmo?
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Rmo+nsep+kvpy+nsea is hell awesome.
I can't clear nsep and nsea.
Preparing for inmo from where?
Geometry always kills me.
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Your interview center?
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Maths=Bionomial theorem
Phy = SHM
Chem =Isomerism.
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One of my other friend was getting 300 rank class 11 but now he is consistently getting in top 50 .
So it depends on you!
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How was yours ?
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Giving ftre?
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In this problem ain't answer coming out to be 4.75 something?
Exact answer : 57(π(π+2)) ??
If not,can you please post the solution bro? thanks!
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Basically what i did was to use the fact that normal reaction is providing restoring torque here.
Am a right?
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What resources do you use in physics,also how can i improve in physics?
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Being not good in physics can't steal my love for it.I enjoy every moment i spend on thinking hard on a tough physics problem and get the best feeling when i can sometimes crack them.
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But hate inorganic from bottom of my heart and i am okay with physical.
wbu?
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Am a right?
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https://brilliant.org/problems/a-problem-of-my-book-5/?ref_id=1296492
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Here is my experience
My score in aptitude test wasn't that good (about 71) due to my poor performance in biology (6 or 7).
But my interview went quite good (i was give 81/100 in interview).
My interview was held at one of my dream places IIT,Delhi . It was a nice day and my interview was scheduled in the evening slot from 3 pm . Me and my mother reached there via Metro at 2:30 pm and my dad came there directly from his office. Then in three Cars (most probably they were Toyota Innova's :P) groups of scientists and professors came who were going to conduct the interviews. After completing all the formalities (submitting some forms and documents) i was told to wait till my name is called up. My name was third in the list. i still remember the person before me entered at 3:30 pm and he came out at about 4:25. From his face it seemed that he had a terrible experience .my father consoled me and told me you will have a great interview go ahead . My name was called i entered the room . it was a big room with lot of books and there was a large parabolic table and my chair was the vertex all the professors were seating around that table and lot of food (Sabzi , roti , dal , juices ,cold drinks) were kept there . it seemed that they were having lunch while taking the interview. i was asked to sit down and then a professor read out by self appraisal form. As i had written my favourite subject as maths quite naturally they started with it . i was directed towards a lady professor and she told me to get onto the board. she told me to draw a 8*8 chess board (i am not good at drawing :P) . She asked me some trivial problems number of squares , number of parallelograms , number of rectangles . i dont remember but in one of these problems i replied the answer as n^2(n+)^2/4 . she told me can you link it with some summation . i readily said it is the square of the sum of first n natural numbers . she told very good and she said isn't it sum of cubes of natural number i readily said yes .then she asked me to derive this . i explained her two ways by induction and other by taking difference. she told me good and then she stopped. then i was directed to the chemistry professor. there was a coca cola lying on the table and he asked me what does it mainly composes of . i told him carbonic acid and gaseous co2. he told good and asked me how can i determine the molarity of carbonic acid in that bottle . i readily replied titration . he said i give you a known amount of NaOH Draw the titration curve . i drew the conventional curve for strong base and weak acid . he told there is a error in it can you figure out?. after thinking i said no sir i cant figure out he told me you wont be able to detect end point as its black colored . can you make appropriate changes in the graph ?
i could not figure out and i told him that . he said no problem and then i was directed to biology mam.she asked me to sit down and take some juice and be relaxed . after 1 minute she asked me what have i studied in biology . i readily said cell theory as that was the only topic i studied for interview. she asked me some basic questions what is a cell , tissue , organalle's , name some organalle's and there functions. in explaining all these i said the word disease . she turned the topic to disease and asked me what is a disease name any three viral , bacterial disease . in the last i told here cholera (bacterial disease) then she asked me which bacterium causes cholera . i couldn't recall and i told her . my interview was over and they asked me whether i will go for iit or not i told not yet decided :P
i was happy but not very satisfied came out my dad told me that my interview lasted exactly 18 minutes .
i had snacks at the iit canteen (burger , pizza) etc and came back home .
just remain confident dont give wrong answers thats it
all the best
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I must really appreciate your method of presentation.thank you!!!
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So even you filled maths as your favorite subject,you were asked easy questions on it.
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yup i was asked tough questions of chemistry :P
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brilliant experience . !! . ☺
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Ohh i dont remember as such :P :P . i am lazy to check it up again!
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Wishing you all a happy and prosperous new year 2017.cheers!!!!
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to you to still 1 hour to go
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Same to you!
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How was inmo?
I don't know why the hell the coordinator changed timings here and it was from 12 to 4 here :(
And I could not know about this change thus lost 1 hour :'(
Did 1 complete ,2 almost complete and 75% of one.Could have done better if time was there :(
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Never mind.you put your best efforts and that's what matters.mine was fine.I was not prepared but somehow managed to solve 5,6,1,4,3.(the last I am not sure)but I think I could have solved all 6 if I had prepared right from the start.let's wait for results.BTW the timing for us was also 12-4.just chill now.
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So how will you manage with IMO and IPHO?
Congrats for your selection in INMO!
So is IIT your aim?
You can post images easily by using this trick.I assume you know how to post pictures in questions , so just go and post any image you want to post in post a problem section and then copy the link thatll come and paste it to comments.
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Hey can you help me.how do you post the pictures of wedges,etc.I wanna post a q but I can't upload it.can you help??
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@Harsh Shrivastava.how was your interview???
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Well I think my interview went well but don't know what will happen.
I was last one to be interviewed in my center.
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@Prakhar Bindal.how are your preparing for INO.I wanted to know abt astronomy.I had given INAO in class 10.but that was like the worst exam.for me.can you advise some thing.thanx.
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Actually i am not preparing for INAO And might not give it too . It has indeed clashed with my board practicals which cant be neglected and postponed. I Might give INCHO+I feel its high time for me just work on my weak topics for JEE coz this time only 6 days are there between board exam end and JEE Mains .
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Guyz @Prakhar Bindal @Spandan Senapati can you please suggest me how not to make silly mistakes in the exam and how to keep calm temperament during tests? Thanks!
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I won't be the perfect one to advise.but in exams I don't become so happy even if I solve e toughest problem.I just move in with the hope of completing the entire paper(if not at least trying it full)and for avoiding silly mistakes you need to be very careful right from filling the omr to completing the exam.just after you solve a q read the opt. carefully and then only mark.1-2 silly mistakes will ocurr even with toppers but notmaking many distinguishes them.also it would be beneficial if you solve subjective q as then you can reach the final Sol.
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I Am trying to work on them . might be increasing concentration will help
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Best of luck @Prakhar Bindal,@aniket sanghi and all for INAO,INCHO tomorrow.
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yup and same to you!!
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My god! which school is that?
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You don't know its DAV chandrasekharpur....Not to boast of but my school has got a splendid history and has nurture d some great prodigies.......
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whereas it boasts of fiitjee integrated
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@Prakhar Bindal how was INCHO
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mine was Average. Organic was doable but That coordination compounds question and last deuterium one sucked .
And yeah i felt paper was lengthy for 3 hours .
I Had a bad time struggling with calculator . they gave pretty bad values in physical and i am not good at using a calculator
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same was the case with me too many people told they did organic and left the rest!
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@Spandan Senapati Did u write FTRE??
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No I didnt
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How was INPHO
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Can you post the paper?
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Hey @Spandan Senapati inmo scorecards are out.
I got 51 😭 time issue really affected me 😭
How much u got?Also plz tell abt scores from your region.
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Grt score.how many had you solved.I can jut guess y marks.I haven't got yet.that's quite a good score I must say ad you HD some 3 hrs only to solve the paper. Tell some more marks from your region.
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3-4.
Rest of the scores from my region are below 40 I guess highest after me being 38 probably.
BTW tell me yr score after you get them.
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We have got marks 69, 53,52,51,48,40,40,36.
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Bro rank in aiits? Top 5?
Mine is very poor 167 :(
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Now let's see if you can tell it.you will I know.that's easy.my rank=(no of distinct letters in your name).
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Awesome !
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Where did you see the result?
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I called my center office.
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Guys best ranks from your centre?I have nt seen the entire result (only mine)but air 1 is sarthak I guess.
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