A horizontal disc of mass \(M\) and radius \(R\) is pivoted along one of its diameter and is free to rotate about it.A mass \(m\) falls through height \(h\) and sticks perfectly inelastically to the disc at point \(A\). A spring of force constant \(k\) is attached to point B of the disc as shown in figure. Assume \(A,B\) are diametrically opposite points.Assume no heat dissipation ans the spring is initially in relaxed state.

I created this situation and I wish to examine it as practice. Can anyone please verify these equations?

Energy conservation: \( mgh=\dfrac{1}{2}kx^2-mgx+\dfrac{1}{2}Iw^2\) (where \(x\) is the distance through which the spring compresses and \(w\) is angular velocity of disc)

Angular momentum conservation: \(m\sqrt{2gh}R=Iw\) (since net torque zero initially)

\(I=mR^2+\dfrac{MR^2}{4}\)

Can somebody please improvise this and find more results? I think it may exhibit simple harmonic motion too (not able to prove)...

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TopNewestYour main problem is that the spring does not remain vertical as the disc rotates. Suppose that the mass \(m\) makes an angle \(\theta\) with the horizontal. Then the length of the spring (assuming that its natural length is \(L\)) is \[ \sqrt{R^2(1-\cos\theta)^2 + (L-R\sin\theta)^2}\] and hence conservation of energy tells us that \[ \tfrac12k\big( \sqrt{L^2 - 2RL\sin\theta + 2R^2(1-\cos\theta)} - L\big)^2 - mgR\sin\theta + \tfrac12I\dot{\theta}^2 \] is constant. For small oscillations, this means that \[ \tfrac12kR^2\theta^2 - mgR\theta + \tfrac12I\dot{\theta}^2 \] is constant. Differentiating this gives you SHM in \(\theta\).

You will get SHM, but only as an approximation for small values of \(h\) (so that the oscillations are small).

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Oh right, I indeed forgot that spring won't remain vertical. Thanks for correcting. Also, what do you reckon with the angular momentum? Is it conserved?

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Conservation of angular momentum is fine, as you set it out, to describe the initial motion. As I said, though, either \(h\) will be very small so that you only get small oscillations, or else you will need to solve the general differential equation in \(\theta\) numerically - it is not likely that it will have a nice exact solution.

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