Hi Everyone! The 2014 NMTC (prelim) just concluded about an hour back in most indian cities. This competition known for its wacky and non-routine problems is quite akin to the Putnam Lowell competition as the median scores in this competition too are almost zero. (Because of the heavy negative marking). 2014 paper was a mix of happiness, sadness, shock and surprise to me. Actually it was a happy/joyous paper because it was quite an easy one ...(not too easy though)...sorrowful because I DIDN'T do my BEST.- I could have easily scored 20+ :(. Shocking because it contained some totally easy problems and surpising because despite it being easier than prev.papers, it was totally not-solvable in 2 hrs. ( unless you are truly a genius). Owing to my illness, My speed was badly reduced. I was able to attempt only 19 questions, though I could have easily notched up 3-4 more ones . Final score-19 (20 if +1 marks is given for Bonus) :'(

How well did you all fare? Please do post your scores! Do like and reshare so that it reaches a larger audience and we get to know their scores also!

PLS NOTE THAT I AM IN JUNIOR LEVEL AND SATVIK'S ANSWER KEY TOO IS APPLICABLE FOR THE SAME.

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TopNewest@Anik Mandal @Rishabh Jain @HARSH SHrivastava -I've sent NMTC paper check it out – Krishna Ar · 2 years, 4 months ago

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– Deepansh Jindal · 7 months, 2 weeks ago

sir can you please send me the paper of nmtc 2014 on deepanshjindal2001@ gmail.comLog in to reply

@Krishna Ar – Harsh Shrivastava · 2 years, 4 months ago

Thank youLog in to reply

– Anik Mandal · 2 years, 4 months ago

Thanks,Krishna!!Log in to reply

what is nmtc? – Pranav Kirsur · 2 years, 4 months ago

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I got 20. This is the answer key.

C

D

B

A

BONUS

B

D

B

C

D

C

C

C

C

B

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142857

0

20808

625

2

30

2

3

757

31:74

1

726

0.66666 or 2/3

4

400

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– Mietantei Conan · 2 years, 5 months ago

Why is the fifth question bonus.Log in to reply

– Jayakumar Krishnan · 2 years, 4 months ago

Which class are you in? How can you give Junior exam if you are 17?Log in to reply

– Mietantei Conan · 2 years, 4 months ago

See i am not 17 but i am 14 and this account used to be of my brother and now he dosen't use it any longer so i am using it.Log in to reply

– Satvik Golechha · 2 years, 5 months ago

The answer wasn't matching with the options, though all the options were approximately correct..Log in to reply

– Mietantei Conan · 2 years, 4 months ago

Please look into my solution.Log in to reply

– Mietantei Conan · 2 years, 4 months ago

No i got option d exact and I will post my solution to my posted problem(NMTC 2014-2(Junior level)). But my friend also got a correct answer 520/7 but not matching the options. I am not sure why multiple answers are found. I will think about it.Log in to reply

– Satvik Golechha · 2 years, 4 months ago

I also got 520/7. And all answer keys are saying this question is bonus...Log in to reply

– Mietantei Conan · 2 years, 4 months ago

Did you check my solution?Log in to reply

link? – Satvik Golechha · 2 years, 4 months ago

Where? Will you give me theLog in to reply

– Mietantei Conan · 2 years, 4 months ago

See i have deleted the question because the problem is incorrect because \(\frac{AE}{E}=0.5\) not \(\frac{2}{3}\) if you fix the rest things.Log in to reply

– Mietantei Conan · 2 years, 4 months ago

It is \(AE/EC\). Sorry for the typo.Log in to reply

– Mietantei Conan · 2 years, 4 months ago

I am again very sorry for miscalculation it is not \(0.5\) but \(\frac{129^\frac{1}{2}-3}{6}\)Log in to reply

– Divyansh Singhal · 2 years, 5 months ago

Ans of question 15 is 395Log in to reply

– Krishna Ar · 2 years, 5 months ago

No..no...no!Log in to reply

– Divyansh Singhal · 2 years, 5 months ago

Please tell the solution of Q16. whose answer is 142857Log in to reply

– Krishna Ar · 2 years, 5 months ago

Well, cyclic property of 7...or u can do it by writing an equationLog in to reply

– Divyansh Singhal · 2 years, 5 months ago

Resonance answer key is showing 395.Log in to reply

– Krishna Ar · 2 years, 5 months ago

How much are you scoring??????Log in to reply

– Krishna Ar · 2 years, 5 months ago

Wait....You got only 19! Bonus marks are not counted. Instead the paper will be evaluated out of 29.Log in to reply

– Siva Prasad · 2 years, 5 months ago

@Krishna Ar are you competing in JUNIOR LEVEL...? :?Log in to reply

– Satvik Golechha · 2 years, 4 months ago

Why downvotes?Log in to reply

– Jayakumar Krishnan · 2 years, 4 months ago

Notice that almost all comments have been downvoted. Some pervert is doing this for cynical pleasure.Log in to reply

– Satvik Golechha · 2 years, 4 months ago

Yeah! Maybe you're right... :DLog in to reply

– Siddharth G · 2 years, 5 months ago

Uhh... looks like 2nd level is not near reach. Shouldn't the 15th one be 399.375?Log in to reply

@Siddharth G - how much are you getting? What is the expected cut-off at your center? Where did you write it? What are your friends getting? – Krishna Ar · 2 years, 5 months ago

Nope its 400 exactly. ANywayLog in to reply

For the 15th Q, the area of the larger triangle is 405 and the smaller one is 5.625. Subtracting, I got 399.375 – Siddharth G · 2 years, 5 months ago

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– Krishna Ar · 2 years, 5 months ago

Well it's quite fine for qualifying.. Yes, its center-wise. Its a huge plus for those who gave it from their school like me, I just had to you know get above 10 and I got 10 marks more than needed. You must also keep in mind that only 10% would move on to the next round. So Cutoff would be decided by only how the people who wrote in the same center as you did. Well , for 15...you dont need to find areas of small/large and all that...only thin' you need to do is- Find ar(pllgm)=720. Then you get ar(tri.gdc)=640*0.5=320. Thus it is 720-320=400. I hope it was clearLog in to reply

– Siddharth G · 2 years, 5 months ago

However, the competition in an institution like FIITJEE, is higher than a one in an average school. I think about 200 students would have given the test. Acc. to me, ar(gdc) = \(630*0.5\) =\(315\)Log in to reply

– Krishna Ar · 2 years, 5 months ago

Sid, if you use similarities, you will get it only as 640. Not 630. Donno how you got this..can you explain?Log in to reply

– Siddharth G · 2 years, 5 months ago

Sorry, took the wrong ratio. Same reason why I got 399.375Log in to reply

– Krishna Ar · 2 years, 5 months ago

Ah...It's fine. Well , I think AMTI will accept this perhaps.Log in to reply

@Siddharth G One of my friends also got 399.375, but I got 400. Also, Brilliant will accept both, and so should the AMTI. – Satvik Golechha · 2 years, 5 months ago

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– Siva Prasad · 2 years, 5 months ago

I am JUNIOR LEVEL.Log in to reply

– Krishna Ar · 2 years, 5 months ago

Yes.....how much are you getting..? I too am in Junior levelLog in to reply

– Mietantei Conan · 2 years, 5 months ago

With this answer key I got 25Log in to reply

– Satvik Golechha · 2 years, 5 months ago

Congon! 25 is a really cool score in NMTC prelims.Log in to reply

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– Krishna Ar · 2 years, 5 months ago

Stop posting crap hereLog in to reply

can anyone upload nmtc paper of 2014 of class 9 and 10 – Deepansh Jindal · 9 months, 1 week ago

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Can you please send the question paper at the email id given sur_rathi@yahoo.co.in – Lakshika Rathi · 1 year, 5 months ago

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What was the cutoff for junior level (1st and 2nd both levels) ? – Rayyan Shahid · 1 year, 10 months ago

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@Aditya Raut @Dinesh Chavan - How much are you guys scoring in INTER level ? – Krishna Ar · 2 years, 4 months ago

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For example, I factorized \(27000001\) in half minute, using

\(300^3+1^3=(300+1)((300+1)^2-3\times 300 \times 1)\\=301\times (301^2-30^2 )= (301)(301+30)(301-30)=7\times 43\times 271\times 331\)

And after this, i wrote their sum as \(642\) in stead of \(652\)

At one place, I introduced \(\dfrac{1}{2}\) in heron's formula which is not there!!!

At one place, they asked double of that angle (ans being \(225^\circ\)), and I wrote the angle( \(112.5^\circ\) )

Once in my rough work, i saw my own \(6\) as \(9\), and wrote an answer that was greater than right one by 3.

One of them I left unattempted ,but later got it, just after giving the answer sheet back !

so sad right? LOL ! Few more mistakes like that, for which someone should slap me .... But nvm, that's a part and parcel of life :P – Aditya Raut · 2 years, 4 months ago

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-- I found the answer for 16, went wrong with verification, and skipped the question.

-- In the AP formula, I divided by 2 twice!

-- Wrongly added four two digit numbers.

-- Took the wrong ratio in similarities.

-- \(37*2=39\)!

-- Multiplied both side by \(0\) – Siddharth G · 2 years, 4 months ago

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@Satvik Golechha or @Krishna Ar ? Do you feel like giving me a strong slap for the above noted silly mistakes ? – Aditya Raut · 2 years, 4 months ago

What sayLog in to reply

– Dhruva Kothari · 2 years, 4 months ago

could you please upload q paper for inter level?Log in to reply

@Dhruva Kothari – Aditya Raut · 2 years, 4 months ago

Some person has already done that, just search in brilliant search , he posted each of the questions separately. I don't remember name.Log in to reply

– Krishna Ar · 2 years, 4 months ago

Nope...In your case it was silly mistakes, in my case- I could have easily scored 5/6 marks more than what I'm getting (20)...so for me both are the same...everyone makes silly mistakes, I'm sure that you are selcetedLog in to reply

– Aditya Raut · 2 years, 4 months ago

And if I don't I will find your house whether it maybe in any part of the world, I'll come to give you a party :PLog in to reply

– Krishna Ar · 2 years, 4 months ago

:D :P The results are out...aren't they?Log in to reply

– Siddharth G · 2 years, 4 months ago

They are?Log in to reply

– Krishna Ar · 2 years, 4 months ago

Yes (Unofficially). Contact the FIITJEE person who's incharge of this.Log in to reply

– Siddharth G · 2 years, 4 months ago

tyLog in to reply

– Rajat Gupta · 1 year, 6 months ago

Can you send me the inter level paper at rajat16nov@gmail.comLog in to reply

Can anyone please tell me about what are the 3 values of 'm' in question no.8 in Part B....... – Prasad Nikam · 2 years, 4 months ago

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– Satvik Golechha · 2 years, 4 months ago

You're talking about question 7, not 8. And the 2 values are 12 and 6.Log in to reply

– Prasad Nikam · 2 years, 4 months ago

Oh! ..Yeah.That only .I was thinking from long time that how 3 values of m are possible ?.. ....Sorry for that......btw thankx.....Log in to reply

I have attempted 26 questions which I think are correct. – Mietantei Conan · 2 years, 5 months ago

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– Krishna Ar · 2 years, 5 months ago

You're in 12th? Which state?Log in to reply

– Mietantei Conan · 2 years, 4 months ago

No no i am not in 12th but 9th. This account is of my brother and he dosen't use it any longer so i am using it.Log in to reply

– Kabane Wasabi · 2 years, 4 months ago

testiLog in to reply

Can anyone tell me when is the result going to be declared???? – Kushagra Sahni · 2 years, 5 months ago

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– Divyansh Singhal · 2 years, 5 months ago

31-09-14 most probablyLog in to reply

– Krishna Ar · 2 years, 5 months ago

Nope- 31-08-14Log in to reply

OH No! when did this happen..I fORGOT!!..from the past 3 years I'd been writing..alwayz got to \(2^{nd}\) level ,,wrote RMO..then came back..but this time shifting school and being busy in hosting cultural comp...I totally fORGOT! hope they have it once again...its really nice platform for me to make a lot of friends..for the questions they are easy in \(1^{st}\) level but quite difficult nxt step...As for the past 5 years I've been shifting every year I get to see some of my old friends...and even some new ones ..whom I've not yet seen like @Krishna Ar well I wish myself better luck nxt time... Krishna Can you mail me the Q.paper ..even though I'd have been writing the Inter Level.. – Arya Samanta · 2 years, 5 months ago

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@Anik Mandal – Krishna Ar · 2 years, 5 months ago

:D. Shit does happen! Its ok! I will be scanning it coz sooo many people have asked for it...and I shall send it to you alsoLog in to reply

Yes the 5 th question is incorrect as we are getting three answers by three different methods and all are the in the options provided. – Vidit Lohia · 2 years, 5 months ago

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– Prasad Nikam · 2 years, 5 months ago

No......Vidit.........three answers are coming......But only 230/3 is in the options........Log in to reply

– Vidit Lohia · 2 years, 5 months ago

All the other are approximately equalLog in to reply

In Part A , ques.9 ........It is not clearly seen as EF = FC...........It should also be bonus........It is seen as EF-FC.... – Prasad Nikam · 2 years, 5 months ago

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– Krishna Ar · 2 years, 5 months ago

How much are you scoring?...No it is a very clear questionLog in to reply

– Prasad Nikam · 2 years, 5 months ago

Not vry much sure , ........But something around 18 or 19 mks........Log in to reply

I am too at the junior level and I am faring about some 16 marks. – Vidit Lohia · 2 years, 5 months ago

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are you given paper for your home if yes then please email me the pdf file of it at - debit97@gmail.com please email me it would be helpful for me – Rishabh Jain · 2 years, 5 months ago

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– Krishna Ar · 2 years, 5 months ago

Ok...I shall try to!Log in to reply

– Rishabh Jain · 2 years, 4 months ago

hey you haven't mailed it !!Log in to reply

@Rishabh Jain - My scanner was (And is) down...Thus I was unable to scan it...Apologies to all – Krishna Ar · 2 years, 4 months ago

Yes,Log in to reply

@Krishna Ar please email to me also,(harshus99@gmail.com)Thnx in advance☺☺ – Harsh Shrivastava · 2 years, 5 months ago

HeyLog in to reply

@Krishna Ar – Anik Mandal · 2 years, 5 months ago

Can you send it too me also?Log in to reply

What does NMTC stand for? – Mervin Bueno · 2 years, 5 months ago

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– Milind Prabhu · 2 years, 5 months ago

National Mathematics Talent ContestLog in to reply

– Krishna Ar · 2 years, 5 months ago

www.amtionline.comLog in to reply

I participated in the Inter Level, and I am expecting about 18-20. Could anyone post solutions, or help me with some problems? – Nanayaranaraknas Vahdam · 2 years, 5 months ago

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@Nanayaranaraknas Vahdam Why don't you post the problems here? Then anyone can have a go at them. – Siddharth G · 2 years, 5 months ago

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– Rishabh Jain · 2 years, 4 months ago

hey can u mail the scanned copy of paper to me at debit97@gmail.comLog in to reply

Yeah. Me too at junior level. I am getting 20. – Kushagra Sahni · 2 years, 5 months ago

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Too many silly mistakes.Fluked the 23rd, erred 25th, blundered the 29th and am still doubtful about 30th.

Attempted- 24

Correct(probably)- 20

Score(approx.)- 18

BTW what was the timing at your centre? – Siddharth G · 2 years, 5 months ago

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– Krishna Ar · 2 years, 5 months ago

Timing 2-4. I attempted 19 and got all of them right! :DLog in to reply

– Siddharth G · 2 years, 5 months ago

Could you post these answers?(In the form of q.no-answer)Log in to reply

– Kushagra Sahni · 2 years, 5 months ago

Tell me which batch are you in and which class?Log in to reply

– Siddharth G · 2 years, 5 months ago

SANKALP47R(class X)Log in to reply

– Krishna Ar · 2 years, 5 months ago

OK.Log in to reply

hey krishna give me some more detail about the competition and pleade some questions also coz it looks very interesting from maths point of view – Rishabh Jain · 2 years, 5 months ago

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– Krishna Ar · 2 years, 5 months ago

www.amtionline.comLog in to reply

– Rishabh Jain · 2 years, 5 months ago

is it popular in southern india ??Log in to reply

– Krishna Ar · 2 years, 5 months ago

Yes...but its conducted in 70+ cities and this year over 1.5 lac people are participatingLog in to reply

@Siddharth G @Satvik Golechha and others- Post your scores! Post it preferably in the form of - (No. attempted, No. correct, Score) – Krishna Ar · 2 years, 5 months ago

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