Please help me ASAP2:Again, tricky geometry 😅

So yesterday I came across a problem(with a problem :/)in a book like this-
There are anglesAOB,BOC,CODon a plane.\text{There are angles} \angle AOB ,\angle BOC, \angle COD \text{on a plane}.
Given that OM,ONOM,ON bisect AOB,COD\angle AOB,\angle COD respectively, And that MON=50,BOC=10\angle MON=50^\circ ,\angle BOC=10^\circ, as in the figure, find AOD.\angle AOD.
But there was NO picture! And I was thinking about how to solve it but realised the possibilities are too complicated, as the size of angle AOB may vary.
Given that every angle is smaller than 180 degrees and bigger than 0 degrees, how should I separate the possibilities? one possibility one possibility

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Jeff Giff - 1 month, 1 week ago

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@Jeff Giff, are you there?

I have got a solution for your question, but it'll take some seconds to send, alright...?

Frisk Dreemurr - 1 month, 1 week ago

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When I read this question, I decided to make a sketch of my own. So my first version was this: (angles and lengths both aren't to scale)

50°50° is visibly the sum of the bisector of AOB, the whole BOC, and the bisector of COD

Subtracting only BOC to get the bisectors give 50°10°=40°50° - 10° = 40°, which is the sum of BOM and CON

Multiplying it by two should give the sum of angles AOB and COD, which is 80°80°

To get the value of AOD, we must add AOB, BOC and COD, which is 80°+10°=90°80° + 10° = 90°

Hope you understood my explanation, I am not that good at explaining...\textsf{Hope you understood my explanation, I am not that good at explaining...} :)

Frisk Dreemurr - 1 month, 1 week ago

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thanks! That was part of my solution, but AOB might be bigger than 100 degrees, so MON could be inside AOB😅 not to mention that OC could be inside AOB, giving multiple answers😊

Jeff Giff - 1 month, 1 week ago

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But N must be part of ON, and according to the question, ON is the bisector of COD

Same goes to M and AOB

So AOB can not be bigger than 40°40°

Frisk Dreemurr - 1 month, 1 week ago

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@Frisk Dreemurr Look, in this possibility, AOB is bigger that 40 degrees :)

Jeff Giff - 1 month, 1 week ago

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@Frisk Dreemurr BTW hamza, I solved it, with the size of AOB varying between 6 sections and OD with a total of 20 positions, BUT only two values of AOD. And since it was our homework, I’m going to show my solution to the teacher. I suppose I’m the only one to write a solution since they didn’t ask for one :)

Jeff Giff - 1 month, 1 week ago

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@Frisk Dreemurr Wanna check out the solution? It would take a few minutes to send :)

Jeff Giff - 1 month, 1 week ago

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@Jeff Giff Yes, why not?

As long as it is good, I'd love to see your solution :)

Frisk Dreemurr - 1 month, 1 week ago

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Thanks a lot anyways, I hope to mention some more people but it turns out I can’t :P

Jeff Giff - 1 month, 1 week ago

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@Jeff Giff

Yajat Shamji - 1 month ago

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Umm I should get to send the solution at the weekend, my maths teacher says I’m wrong and I still don’t know exactly why 😊

Jeff Giff - 1 month ago

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I'll ask my maths teacher to solve it.

Yajat Shamji - 1 month ago

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Geez guess what my maths teacher accidentally solved it wrong mwah hah hah :D

Jeff Giff - 1 month ago

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So I’m correct :P and I’m posting the solution

Jeff Giff - 1 month ago

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First, let CON=x\angle CON=x^\circ.

Case 1

When 0AOB100^\circ \le \angle AOB \le 10^\circ so AOB\angle AOB is in BOC1\angle BOC_1, as in the figure, there are 4 possibilities of AOD(the number after D shows the C and N it’s contributed by, e.g. AOD11AOD_{11} matches with C1C_1 & N1N_1):
AOD11=C1OD11(BOC1AOB)=C1OD11+AOBBOC1=2x+2MOB10=(2x10)+2(BOC1+MON1C1ON1)=(2x10)+2(60x)=110;AOD12=BOC1+C1OD12AOB=(10+2x)2[10(50x)]=90;AOD21=AOB+BOC2+C2OD21=2(MOB+C2ON1)+10=2(MON1BOC2)+10=2×(5010)+10=2×40+10=90;AOD22=C2OD22AOBBOC2=2x2MOB10=(2x10)2(x5010)=110.\begin{aligned} \angle AOD_{11}&=\angle C_1OD_{11}-(\angle BOC_1-\angle AOB)\\ &=\angle C_1OD_{11}+\angle AOB-\angle BOC_1 \\ &=2x^\circ +2\angle MOB-10^\circ\\ &=(2x-10)^\circ +2(\angle BOC_1+\angle MON_1-\angle C_1ON_1)\\ &=(2x-10)^\circ +2(60-x)^\circ =\red{110^\circ};\\ \angle AOD_{12}&=\angle BOC_1+\angle C_1OD_{12}-\angle AOB\\ &=(10+2x)^\circ -2[10^\circ -(50-x)^\circ ]=\red{90^\circ};\\ \angle AOD_{21}&=\angle AOB+\angle BOC_2+\angle C_2OD_{21}\\ &=2(\angle MOB+\angle C_2ON_1)+10^\circ \\ &=2(\angle MON_1-\angle BOC_2)+10^\circ = 2\times (50-10)^\circ +10^\circ =2\times 40^\circ +10 ^\circ =\red{90^\circ} ; \\ \angle AOD_{22}&=C_2OD_{22}-\angle AOB-\angle BOC_2\\ &=2x^\circ -2\angle MOB-10^\circ \\ &=(2x-10)^\circ -2(x-50-10)^\circ =\red{110^\circ}. \end{aligned} -NOT FINISHED YET-

Jeff Giff - 1 month ago

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@Valentin Duringer here is a problem that can be included in dynamic geometry, because this is mad as the picture is not given, meaning we have to think of all 6 varieties of AOB and result in 20 AODs, which only return two values! :D It was my HOMEWORK and my maths teacher nearly said holy —— seeing my solution - didn’t realise what chaos would be caused without the picture :D

Jeff Giff - 6 days, 21 hours ago

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hum..chaotic indeed -)

Valentin Duringer - 6 days, 18 hours ago

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I’ll give the latex of the problem here later, copy it if you have time :)

Jeff Giff - 6 days, 21 hours ago

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CAREFULLY READ ASSUMPTIONS BEFORE CALCULATING
There are rods OA, OB, OC, OD(not necessarily ordered) on a plane. Given two rods OM, ON that bisect \ ( \angle AOB \ ) and \ ( \angle COD\ ) respectively, and that \ ( \angle MON =50^\circ ,\angle BOC =10^\circ \ ) , while the value of \ ( \angle AOB \ ) varies, find \ ( \angle AOD. \ )
Assumptions:
All angles are in range (0,\pi). That is to assure which side the angle bisector is on.
The size of AOB varies and so does the size of AOD. You will find a few finite possibilities for AOD. Input the product of all possible answers IN DEGREES as result.
e.g. if possible results are 10 degrees ,20 degrees and 30 degrees, then input 10\times 20\times 30 =6000 as your answer.

Jeff Giff - 6 days, 21 hours ago

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Just remember to add the latex brackets :)

Jeff Giff - 6 days, 21 hours ago

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