Why this Brilliant solution's true and i wrong?

i never know that the formula of electic field is E=14πϵ0Qr2r^{E}=\frac{1}{4\pi\epsilon_0}\frac{Q}{r^2}\hat{r}.

From many books i have read event in this wiki they never mentioned r^\hat{r}.

I need an explaination about this. Anyway i don't understand this Brilliant solution. Can anybody explain ! why this Brilliant solution's true and i wrong?

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Note by Hafizh Ahsan Permana
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Hey @Hafizh Ahsan Permana! Can you link to the problem that you're trying to solve? I'd be happy to help.

Regarding the reason why E=14πε01r2E = \frac{1}{4\pi\varepsilon_0}\frac{1}{r^2}, the simplest is that it is what's measured experimentally. Reality is the thing that decides what theories in science are right or wrong, so it's pretty much the end of the road as far as Coulomb's law goes.

On a slightly deeper level, you might consider the electric field to radiate out from charged particles. In fact, if you go further on in physics, you learn that all forces are carried by a particle. In other words, the electric force is brought about by the charges exchange of photons. This gives some basis to think of the charge as sending out uniformly electric field in all directions. Then, just as the intensity of light from the Sun or a light bulb diminishes as you walk away from it, so goes the electric field of a charged particle. This line of thinking brings you to Gauss' law. I think Gauss' law is probably the closest it gets to "understanding" why Coulomb's law has the form that it does.

Josh Silverman Staff - 4 years, 5 months ago

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Hello @Josh Silverman! No, i can't link to the problem because it's practice problem. The data in the problem is already written in the picture above and i think it's enough to solve the problem. Actually my solution had many failures in counting, Do you think my solution will work and result the same divisor? @Siddhartha Srivastava said it will work but i can't prove it. I don't know, maybe its my failure again in my counting or it's really not same but has close result.

Hafizh Ahsan Permana - 4 years, 5 months ago

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A few things.

  • The Cosine rule is C2=A2+B2ABcos(θ) C^2 = A^2 + B^2 - AB\cos(\theta) . There is a - on ABcos(θ) AB\cos(\theta) . Not a + + sign.

  • Where did you get the 13 13 in the cosine rule from? The hypotenuse is 15 15 , not 13 13 .

  • You should raise your doubts in the question's solution discussion. It'll make it easier for everyone to find out what the problem is since they've just solved it and know the question. I took me some time just to figure out the question.

Reply to this post once you read this so that I can delete my comment. Also delete your note. If you have any other problems, reply with the link to the question and ask your question in the solution discussion of the problem.

Siddhartha Srivastava - 4 years, 6 months ago

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No. I can't ask it in the solution discussion because it's on practice and no one can discuss this there. Brilliant suggested me to post it on note. Thanks for the correction but can my solution really worked? I confused, i have no doubt with the solution, i just don't understand the solution is, i never seen the solution in any books and i need some expert explanation. Once again thanks for the comment.

Hafizh Ahsan Permana - 4 years, 6 months ago

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Sorry, my bad. I thought it was a community question. Anyways, your solution should work. Your method is a little long, but correct.

The Brilliant solution is nothing new or different. It just exploits the symmetry of the problem. By symmetry, you can see that the horizontal components of the electric field of each of the particles cancel out. The only thing that is left is the vertical components. What is the vertical component of the Electric field of one component? zR×E \dfrac{z}{R} \times E . That is where the zR \dfrac{z}{R} came from. Since there are two particles, you multiply by 2.

Siddhartha Srivastava - 4 years, 6 months ago

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@Siddhartha Srivastava Happy to know that my solution can really work! And your explaination helped my understanding. It will be completed if there's more problem and solutions like this. Do you know this kind of questions? and the questions can work by this solution. Not only electric field, anything. Because Practice Question only give me one example. Well if i repeat the practice then will come the same question but different numbers.

Hafizh Ahsan Permana - 4 years, 6 months ago

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Since Electric field is a vector quantity, it needs some unit vector to represent it.

Purushottam Abhisheikh - 4 years, 6 months ago

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I don't understand why it is converted as z/r. Do you have any problem and solution like this? (Different picture)

Hafizh Ahsan Permana - 4 years, 6 months ago

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